Starter works, solenoid new, why is it doing this?

Tiny
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  • 1987 VOLKSWAGEN CABRIOLET
  • 86,000 MILES
I have a 1987 Volkswagen cabriolet that just decided not to start one day. I took it to someone and turned out the solenoid was bad, he put in a new solenoid and checked it with battery terminals and it went off like a blender! Guy said the starter is still good.

I came back home, hooked it up and it fired up (after a few tries because of fuel filter problems). The car ran fine and even drove a short distance before being parked. Once parked, and fuel filter changed, I tried to start it with a different battery than the one I used first and it would not start. I head a grinding noise but it wont start.

someone is saying that the bushings are worn out and that is what is causing the problem, I think it may be the battery not having enough charge because it started before with a different one.
I just don't get it, it was definitely the solenoid the first time and with the new solenoid the starter (hooked up to a battery, not the car) went off like a blender! Why then is it doing this now?

What is going on? Do the bushings really are doing it? Or is it the battery? I don't have the initial battery anymore so I cannot check it with that one again.
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Friday, August 9th, 2013 AT 4:05 PM

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Tiny
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Standard or automatic transmission?

Thomas
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Friday, August 9th, 2013 AT 5:47 PM
Tiny
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It's a standard 5 speed
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Friday, August 9th, 2013 AT 6:51 PM
Tiny
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A worn / missing starter bushing can cause starter drag, because the armature is no longer supported and centered within the starter.

Here's a video of a missing bushing (customer complained about slow cranking).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqLxOAi592A

You can see the missing bushing at the 5:13min mark.

At 5:41min you can see what a correctly installed bushing looks like.

The only way to rule-out a bushing problem, is to pull the starter again and check to see if it is still there or worn.

Put a battery charger on the current battery and try it again once the battery has had some time to charge.

It was OK earlier, so it should stilll be ok now.... if the only difference was swapping batteries.

Double check all your connections.

Thomas
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Friday, August 9th, 2013 AT 8:41 PM
Tiny
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Thank you Thomas. We did put a battery charger on it and it started up, took a while but it did. Also, it was idling low.
I agree with you, It could be the bushing, but the car is running now, how long can I run it with that damaged bushing and what could be consequences? I am trying to get a new bushing.
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Sunday, August 11th, 2013 AT 12:29 AM
Tiny
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Sunday, August 11th, 2013 AT 8:25 AM

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