2003 Saturn Sedan Forward O.K, but, NO REVERSE

Tiny
BILLY RAPPOLD
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  • 2003 SATURN SEDAN
  • 4 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 20,000 MILES
Please advise,
Your assistance is appreciated, and, when I fix the problem I am going to come back here and THANK YOU.
Sir/Madame,
My 2003 Saturn works fine in forward gears, but, can not catch reverse. WHAT's Up With That?
Best Regards,
Also, would you not only tell me what you think is wrong, but, suggest a solution.
Thanks,
And, I will come back here and properly thank you when I use your suggestion to fix the problem.

Billy Rappold
Sunday, February 14th, 2010 AT 7:59 PM

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Tiny
KHLOW2008
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Hi Billy,

Thank you foe the donation.

What model Saturn is it? Ion, Vue or others?

Here are possible causes for no reverse.


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/192750_NoReverse03VueFig01a_1.jpg



https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/192750_NoReverse03VueFig01b_2.jpg

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Monday, February 15th, 2010 AT 3:52 AM
Tiny
BILLY RAPPOLD
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Dear KHLOW2008,
The vehicle is a Saturn 4cl TWIN CAM 16 valve 1.9 liter engine.
VIN NUMBER: 1G8ZK5271WZ177096

When the vehicle is cold, it gets reverse. When run, it does not get reverse. It has tremendous pickup from 60 to 80MPH with no slipping.

I went onto ebay apparently the Eight number in the VIN is significant when dealing with transmissions.

In checking out ebay I saw that there is an electrical switching mechanism--not an expert yet, so forgive me if I don't know what the #% & I am referring to. So, before I yank the transaxle and replace it--or rebuild it--I want to learn more.

I did order a SATURN shop manual. The seller said it was for SATURN SHOPS. The chilton that I have inherrited is geared to the owner, and not an in-depth study of the vehicle.

The vehicle is presently located at the ALGIERS-NEW ORLEANS NAVAL SUPPORT ACTIVITY AUTO HOBBY SHOP, and we can do absolutely everything there if given enough information. So, anything that you may suggest will be greatly appreciated.

I am prepared to pull the engine to get to the transaxle and I am asking you whether-or-not that is the way to go. Also, the vehicle has 191,000 miles on it. I am wondering if since we are pulling the engine anyway, it would be a good idea to do something to the engine while it is out. It works fine, but, if there is something that can be done to send the vehicle on for another 200,000 miles, then, I would like to consider it.

Thanks for your advice, I am also doing a VOLKSWAGEN THING and a 1960 CADDY, I will be asking your advice on the caddy, as, I want to do LAMBORGHINI DOORS, but, when I do I will hit you with another donation, or, do you all just have one bigger donation level that gets me a bunch of answers. I got a bunch of cars, and a couple of busses, and, I DON'T DO ANYTHING BEFORE ASKING AN EXPERT.

Sir, if you have anybody in the military who you can say a word to, please, promote the Military Hobby Shops, they are in danger of going 86. Specifically the New Orleans Hobby Shop. We will have 3,000 marines on board and there is a very good possibility that the shop will become a parking lot. It is an excellent activity for the men and women on base.
Billy
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Wednesday, February 24th, 2010 AT 7:19 AM
Tiny
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Hi Billy,

We do not have any level of donations and all questions are handled as best as we can. If any technicina is not able to esolve any questions, we would pool our resources and try to get to the bottom of it. Any donations are appreciated and additional donations are always welcomed.

Based on the VIN, vehicle should be a 1998 year model and not 2003 as indicated. 1.9 LLO engine.

Our database does not have any information for this model so I gues it is time to pool our resouces. Hopefully some of our technicians have access to information required.

I a not based on th eUS so is not able to assist on the paragraph but I believe somw onw amongst would be able to.

Hang on while we scratch our heads.

Have a nice day.
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Wednesday, February 24th, 2010 AT 12:23 PM
Tiny
DAVE H
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Hey.

The electrical controls are the Line Actuators,
Line actuators are controlled by PCM. Line actuators (duty-cycle type) open or close valve body ports inside the valve body. PCM controls line pressure with (duty-cycle type) line actuator to regulate transaxle line pressure for smooth shifting of transaxle

does the vehicle have any fault codes stored on the PCM (transmission codes) ..

From your description of the fault it is not an electrical fault on the transmission .. as reverse works untill the transmission gets hot .. then reverse is lost altogether .. I'm guessing the reverse clutches are bad .. the only way to check this is to remove the transmission and break it down on a bench .. it could need an updated valvebody .. but again the only way to check this is to breakdown the trans and check all internal parts !!

Hope this helps


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/266999_AAA2_1005.png



AS a side note .. you do not need to remove the motor to get the transmission out ... let me know if you need removal assistance !
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Friday, February 26th, 2010 AT 3:18 PM

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