Purchased used car. One month later it begins misfiring randomly.

Tiny
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  • 2007 CHEVROLET COBALT
  • 2.2L
  • 4 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 135,000 MILES
Code is p0300. After cold start and sitting idling. -
Check engine light comes on almost immediately upon start and begins flashing about one to three min into operation. Car shakes noticeably. Rpm’s surge slightly - you can hear it. Initially, a second repetitive growling vibration started and within 10 seconds, car dies. After trying a few things, it stopped doing the growling thing.
The things I tried that seemed to help were
Cleaning the throttle body
Removing air filter
Banging on catalytic converter.
Thoughts are... Air/fuel mixture isn’t right.

Background- initially another person changed spark plugs, added gas treatments, Had compression tested. 1 and 2 are ok. Cylinders 3 and 4, respectively, are the trouble. Maf and MAP sensors and head gasket were changed. Mechanic suggested (signs of overheating were obvious and he couldn’t diagnose it) and so we replaced the ECM. Now Crankshaft Poaition Sensor has to be relearned- appt is made to do that. Air filter replaced with new. Mechanic says injectors clicked. Unsure how he tested them. I’m tracing wires and looking for continuity from each ignition coil connector to ECM because wiring harness in ignition coil area were sticking to each other after an apparent overheat.
So far nothing open or shorted.
Worth noting- inside of air intake cover (before air filter) has coating of oil inside it. Was told that when head gasket was replaced the inside was caked with “gunk”.

So still have a bad misfire on idle. No misfires seem to happen at road speed according to live data on Foxwell code reader.
When I removed the air filter, acceleration was snappy. That’s why I bought a new one. Is it possible the. Catalytic converter needs to be replaced? Mechanic didn’t find anything obviously wrong. - Suggested ecm my have been damaged at overheat. No change.
Saturday, September 17th, 2022 AT 8:01 PM

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Tiny
KEN L
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It sounds like the fuel pump is going out or the catalytic converter is starting to clog up. These two guides can help you check it. here are the fuel pressure specs and you can rent a gauge at the Auto parts store. The only thing that concerns me is the growling vibration because this engine has a balance shaft and when they go out this problem happens. Here are the locations of the shaft and how they are located inside the engine in the images below:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-a-catalytic-converter

and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-fuel-system-pressure-and-regulator

Fuel Pressure (Key "on", Engine "off") .................... 345-414 kPa (50-60 PSI)

Check out the images (below). Let us know what happens and please upload pictures or videos of the problem.
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Monday, September 19th, 2022 AT 10:03 AM
Tiny
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  • 2007 CHEVROLET COBALT
  • 2.2L
  • 4 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 135,000 MILES
I’ve checked the voltages on throttle body position sensor. If bad, entire throttle body has to be changed. $!
Ground (reference voltage) is good. Voltage at throttle actuator motor control pins at both sensors is battery voltage.
Signal voltage on one sensor is 4.04 and drops to 3.66 on throttle from 800 rpm to 3000 rpm.
Signal voltage on second sensor is.89v and climbs to 1.4v at 3000 rpm.
Are these voltage changes dramatic enough?
I can’t work the gas pedal well enough to idle at 1300 rpm. - It wants to be at 1000 or 1500. Can’t feather pedal to stay anywhere in between.
Any chance these numerous random misfires that appear only at idle and within three minutes results in car stalling are due to a bad throttle actuator controller? TAC or TBS - seen it called both.
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Monday, September 19th, 2022 AT 10:50 AM (Merged)

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