1997 Pontiac Grand Am Instrument Cluster

Tiny
AWOODSON
  • 1997 PONTIAC GRAND AM

Electrical problem
1997 Pontiac Grand Am 4 cyl Two Wheel Drive Automatic 97000 miles

I have a 1997 Grand Am, I got in the other day and got about half way down my driveway and realized that my gauges weren't working (no speedometer, gas, etc.). All the gauges don't move off of zero. In addition every warning light in the instrument cluster is on. I have checked the fuses and they are all fine. What is wrong with my car?

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Andy

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Wednesday, June 18th, 2008 AT 11:15 AM

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Tiny
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Sounds like a possible bad cluster or bad ingnition switch. I would have the vehicle scanned to see if there is any trouble codes.

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Wednesday, June 18th, 2008 AT 11:36 AM
Tiny
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Could it be a bad body control module?

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Wednesday, June 18th, 2008 AT 12:49 PM
Tiny
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Im about 90% sure that does not have a body control module, but I could be wrong. I would still have it scanned.

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Wednesday, June 18th, 2008 AT 1:45 PM
Tiny
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OK. I'll do that, hopefully thats what it is as my fiance is driving my car right now and to be honest with you that worries me more than driving her's without a speedometer.

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Wednesday, June 18th, 2008 AT 2:16 PM
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OK, now I have a whole new problem. I replaced the dash, that appears to have solved that problem as now the tach works when you go to start the car, the new problem is that the theft system is engaged and stalls the car after you turn it over and it starts for a second or two. How can I disengage this? I have tried disconnecting the battery and pulling the fuses for the ignition system. I have also allowed the vehicle to sit overnight thinking that it might have to reset itself, this didn't work either.

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Wednesday, June 25th, 2008 AT 5:50 AM
Tiny
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Try to start and then leave ignition key on until security light off
you have to leave the ignition in the ON position it may take 10 or so min
make sure you have a fully charged battery

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Wednesday, June 25th, 2008 AT 6:10 AM
Tiny
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Ok, I'll try that. I tried it last night and let it sit for 5 minutes or so and the light didn't stop blinking. Does it normally take 10 minutes?

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Wednesday, June 25th, 2008 AT 7:49 AM
Tiny
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The car is now running and the dash works. The theft system light is on though, should it be? Will it possibly go off after some time?

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Wednesday, June 25th, 2008 AT 8:42 AM
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Where did you get a new cluster from because I can't find anything anywhere? How much did the new cluster cost?

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Sunday, July 19th, 2009 AT 9:33 PM
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DENNIS WAYNE MEEKS
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In need of an instrument cluster for 96, 97 or 98 Grand am.

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Saturday, April 1st, 2017 AT 8:30 PM
Tiny
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You guys need to start new questions, and please be sure to list the engine size and mileage. This was a private conversation between two people, eight years ago. We see it as having received a reply, so none of the other experts are going to read your additions or have a chance to reply. You won't get the help you're looking for.

There's two places to look for a replacement instrument cluster. The first is any salvage yard. I'm fond of "Pull-A-Part", but they don't have any yards near me. Do a search for them and see if there is a yard near you. You pay your buck, take your tools, and you can spend all day there if you want to. I've been to 16 of their yards. All are very clean and well-organized.

Be aware instrument clusters are no longer the simple, reliable units they used to be. They are entire computer modules, and cars are the worst possible environment to be planting unneeded electronics. Failures are very common, and there's a good chance a used cluster from a salvage yard will develop the same problems. A better alternative is to buy a remanufactured cluster with a warranty. If you do a search for "GM instrument cluster repair", you'll find dozens of shops that specialize in them.

For the discussion on relearning the anti-theft system, the steps were correct, but they didn't go far enough. Best is to connect a battery charger set to the lowest range because this takes 30 minutes.

Crank the engine briefly, then release the ignition switch to the "run" position without turning it off. The "Security" light will flash for ten minutes. When it stops flashing, turn the ignition switch off, then immediately crank the engine again. Release the switch to the "run" position again, then wait another ten minutes for the "Security" light to stop flashing. Do that a third time. The next time the ignition switch is turned off, then back on, the anti-theft system should be off, and the engine will start and stay running.

That is from memory. If it doesn't work, try doing the steps with never turning the ignition switch all the way to "off". This procedure is used to relearn the Passlock sensor after it has been replaced, and possibly for some other, related things. If the system arms again, it is either because there is a problem that needs to be diagnosed, or my instructions are not accurate.

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Saturday, April 1st, 2017 AT 10:19 PM

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