Panoramic roof issue

Tiny
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  • 2010 FORD EDGE
  • 6 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 160,000 MILES
Bought it knowing it has a panoramic roof problem, it was stuck open. The fabric cover opens and closes with no issues. I pushed the glass to close it and I got it to about 85% closed then noticed that there is a metal round pin on each side under the glass that the piece that is supposed to push it open and close is supposed to attach to it. I then used the power button to see what happens and the roof moved back all the way without an issue, but to close it the pieces on both ends move but the roof doesn't. If am not mistaken those pieces are broken on both sides. Can you look at the pics and recognize it? Also, is this a common problem you have seen on these cars?
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Tuesday, May 25th, 2021 AT 6:35 PM

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Tiny
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Or is there a way to close it manually?
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Wednesday, May 26th, 2021 AT 10:43 AM
Tiny
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Can you get a video of the top opening and closing? I understand that the glass is not moving but I just want to see if the cables are operating.

However, yes, this is where it appears the glass attaches but there should be a bracket still on the glass frame and then that actually attaches to these tabs.

I attached the picture below of what this bracket should look like.

Let's get a video as best you can of this and we can go from there. Thanks
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Wednesday, May 26th, 2021 AT 6:43 PM
Tiny
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Attached.
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Wednesday, May 26th, 2021 AT 7:34 PM
Tiny
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Perfect. That is exactly what I thought from the first post you made. So you are correct that the glass frame attaches to these tabs.

There is a way to close it manually but that is turning the motor manually and it assumes these tabs are attached to the sunroof. I attached that below.

As for fixing this, the proper way to do it is replace the frame assembly as it will come with the brackets I showed above for the glass frame to attach to. I have not tried to repair one of these but I imagine there are screws that go up through those holes in the tabs and connect to the glass frame bracket. The issue you are going to have is finding the correct screws and getting them in as they need to come up through the tab and connect to the glass bracket.

I suspect the way to do that is with the headliner out of the way but again, this is just from experience working with these units as this info is not in the manual.

Do you have any idea how this happened? That doesn't look like those tabs are broken so it appears they have been removed.
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Thursday, May 27th, 2021 AT 8:51 PM
Tiny
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Bought it like that. Yes, I am aware headliner needs to come down for the repair, I was hoping I can close it manually but that is assumed the tabs are still connected to the glass, but they are not. So there is no way to manually close it, even if I turn the motor or remove the headliner.
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Friday, May 28th, 2021 AT 6:26 AM
Tiny
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It looks like the glass is okay, but the pieces that the glass brackets attach to and snap into on the top drive runners are broken. You don't need to pull the headliner out as you won't be able to access that area from inside the car. Those units are bonded in from the top. If you pull the glass fully forward and lift the front end up you can remove the screws on each side that hold the pivot bracket to the glass. Then slide it farther forward and gently push the rear of the glass up and you can reach the rear screw They are all T25 screws. Then the glass will lift free of the vehicle. Now you can look at the pieces and see if the pivot pins are damaged or if they simply came out or the plastic broke. From your pictures it looks like at least one side broke and the area that retains the pins is missing. With the glass out of the way you can look at the brackets and see if the pieces are broken or just came apart. If the plastic is broken and you can find the broken piece you could likely glue it back together and maybe drill a small hole and add some reinforcement in the broken area, then attach the pivots and have working glass again. It will also let you look and see if those pieces are easily replaceable or if you have to replace the entire roof channel system.

This video shows the glass removal so you can get at the tracks and guides:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ6KiV6TqIk
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Friday, May 28th, 2021 AT 7:38 AM

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