Codes P2195 and P2197

Tiny
COLTEN MURPHY
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  • 2004 FORD ESCAPE
  • 3.0L
  • V6
  • 4WD
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  • 223,000 MILES
Hello all, I'm currently trying to get my car all fixed up after the wife rolled it. I've got the engine running again but it's throwing these two codes. Any thoughts on how to remedy this?
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Tuesday, February 12th, 2019 AT 5:10 PM

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Tiny
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Those codes are for your upstream oxygen sensors stuck lean. Can your scan tool look at live data? If you can, look at the long and short term fuel data on banks 1 and 2. Also look at the the mass air flow data at idle with all loads off example, A/C off, lights off. Post your readings on here to get an idea as to what is going on.

You could have a vacuum leak, faulty mass air flow reading or low fuel pressure. It is very unlikely but plausible to have two upstream sensors stuck lean. Let us know what those readings are to get a an idea as to what is going on and any parts you have already replaced.
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Tuesday, February 12th, 2019 AT 10:35 PM
Tiny
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Honestly, I'm not too familiar with reading the live data, I'll add pictures to for the complete set. I haven't truly replaced anything except adding transmission fluid that drained out while upside down and the cleaning the upper intake that had oil in it and replacing the air filter.
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Wednesday, February 13th, 2019 AT 10:21 AM
Tiny
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I converted the mass air flow reading to grams per second and found the reading is 8.2 grams per second which is too high for your vehicle. Normal should be closer to 3 grams per second. I would recommend you start with cleaning the mass air flow sensor to see if we can get that reading down.

Here is a link to help guide you:
https://www.2carpros.com/articles/mass-air-flow-service

Clean it, reset the computer and warm up the engine again and post the trims for bank 1 and mass air flow reading.

Also, just to verify, your engine is a 3.0L?
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Wednesday, February 13th, 2019 AT 8:33 PM
Tiny
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Yes, I have the 3.0. Cleaned the MAF.
MAF = 6.0479g/s
O2S11 =.040
02S12 =.015
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Thursday, February 14th, 2019 AT 10:15 AM
Tiny
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Also, new code of p0113 (intake air temperature sensor 1 circuit high).
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Thursday, February 14th, 2019 AT 10:22 AM
Tiny
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Reading is still high and with the new code it appears like the mass air flow sensor is the root cause for the light to come. If you have been driving like that for a while it could cause the oxygen sensors to remain stuck lean which may require you to replace as well if they remain stuck lean.

After replacing the mass air flow sensor, reset the light and recheck oxygen sensors to verify they are switching 0.8 to 0.1 volts (close to it). Also on a side note, buy a quality name brand sensor. Usually the house brand will be calibrated different then from the OEM.
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Thursday, February 14th, 2019 AT 12:44 PM
Tiny
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Put new MAF in-
MAF - 6.0479
O2S11 -.03-.035
02S12 -.015

Back to the original two codes.
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Friday, February 15th, 2019 AT 9:28 AM
Tiny
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What about P0113, did that go away. Also did the fuel trim numbers change?
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Friday, February 15th, 2019 AT 12:28 PM
Tiny
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P0113 is gone, which one is the fuel trim numbers?
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Friday, February 15th, 2019 AT 12:37 PM
Tiny
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Long term fuel trim and short term fuel trims on bank1 and bank2
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Saturday, February 16th, 2019 AT 7:07 PM
Tiny
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Can you also post a picture of the mass air flow sensor reading as well. And what brand sensor did you install?
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Sunday, February 17th, 2019 AT 1:09 PM
Tiny
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I have seen the MAF sensor cause this problem. here is a guide that will walk you through the steps and diagrams below to show you how on your car:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-replace-a-mass-air-flow-sensor-maf

Check out the diagrams (below). Please let us know what you find. We are interested to see what it is.
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Monday, February 18th, 2019 AT 9:46 AM
Tiny
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Sorry about the delay, we've been getting hit with snow and it's finally cleaning up. It's a bad sensor that I installed.
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Thursday, March 28th, 2019 AT 10:56 AM
Tiny
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Glad you could get it fixed, that kind of problem can be tough. Please use 2CarPros anytime we are here to help.
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Thursday, March 28th, 2019 AT 11:53 AM
Tiny
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That's supposed to actually say BWD, problem isn't fixed yet.
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Thursday, March 28th, 2019 AT 11:59 AM
Tiny
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Hmm,

These codes are usually caused by a misfire how does the engine seem to run. Can you please shoot a quick video with your phone so we can see what's going on? that would be great. You can upload it here with your response.

When was the last tune up and did you use all OEM ignition parts? If it has been a while here is a guide to help you do the job correctly:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-tune-up-a-car-engine

Please run down this guide and report back. What is a BWD sensor?
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Friday, March 29th, 2019 AT 11:27 AM
Tiny
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The engine runs mostly fine, shakes a bit. I've replaced both upstream O2 sensors and b2s1 is still showing a code. Video should be attached.
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Thursday, April 4th, 2019 AT 1:50 PM
Tiny
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If the code came back can you load pictures of the freeze frame data of the vehicle speed and long and short term fuel trims to see if this is happening at cruising speed. Also what name brand mass air flow sensor did you install?
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Thursday, April 4th, 2019 AT 8:02 PM
Tiny
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How fast should I be going for the cruise? Can do up to about 35.
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Thursday, April 4th, 2019 AT 8:09 PM
Tiny
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The data is already stored. Go to freeze frame on your scan tool and take pictures of the vehicle speed, rpm, and fuel trims.
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Thursday, April 4th, 2019 AT 8:55 PM

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