On our way on a 5 hour vacation trip.

Tiny
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  • 2001 MERCURY VILLAGER
  • 100,000 MILES
We had this van (it's a bit old and rusty) repaired and packed for a 10 day vacation (starting today). On our way out of town, I put $60 of gas to fill up. At the end of the fill-up I noticed gas coming out of the bottom, just in front of the wheel base. I checked at it looked to be coming from smaller tube, into fuel tank. We are about to leave on vacation and do not want to rent another vehicle. Is this one okay to drive (an overflow problem) or is there a leak I need to be worried about and just park the vehicle?
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Sunday, August 4th, 2013 AT 1:55 PM

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Tiny
CJ MEDEVAC
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THIS IS FUEL COMING OUT?

I COULD NOT FIND A PIC OF YOUR FUEL FILLER

I WILL IMPROVISE

NOTICE THE FUEL TANK IN THIS LINK......IT IS FOR A JEEP CJ (THE BEST VEHICLE IN THE WORLD)

http://www.jeep4x4center.com/jeep-fuel-system-parts/cj5-cj7-cj8-scrambler.htm#12

"10"....."11" ...."12" (OVER ON THE RIGHT) IN THE "PIC/ DIAGRAM" IS WHAT I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT

"10" IS THE VENT HOSE IN THIS PIC.......IT COMES FROM THE TANK AND ENDS UP ON THIS "PARTICULAR FILLER NECK"................"11" IS THE FILL HOSE

THIS ALLOWS FUEL TO FLOW INTO THE TANK......AND THE AIR TO BE EXPELLED SO IT DON'T "BURP" OR SHUT OFF THE PUMP, DURING FUELING

THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS THIS IS DONE ON OTHER VEHICLES.......SOMETIMES THE HOSE GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE NECK........SOMETIMES IT JUST "TEEs INTO" THE BIGGER HOSE PRIOR TO GETTING ALL THE WAY TO THE NECK (IN THIS CASE, THE NECK WOULD ONLY HAVE ONE HOSE FITTING)

NOT KNOWING HOW YOURS IS SET UP...........AND YOU DID NOT SUPPLY A GOOD PIC OF WHERE THE PROBLEM IS EXACTLY.......I WILL ATTEMPT TO WING IT!

IS THE SMALLER HOSE SIMILAR TO WHAT I HAVE SHOWN YOU?

EXACTLY WHERE IS IT COMPROMISED.....AT A FITTING..... OR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HOSE?

CAN YOU GET TO IT WELL?

A BIG OLE HAND MIRROR (EVEN YOUR VANITY MIRROR OR THE REAR-VIEW), AND A GOOD FLASHLIGHT MIGHT LET YOU SEE IT/ TAKE A PIC WITHOUT BEING A CONTORTIONIST!

LET'S ...........NOT...........USE A CIGARETTE LIGHTER TO LOOK!

GIMME MORE ON THE SITUATION---I WILL THEN ATTEMPT SOME SORTA "McGYVER MANEUVER" TO AID YOU!

YOUR TURN

THE MEDIC
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Sunday, August 4th, 2013 AT 3:14 PM
Tiny
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Dear Medic,

Thanks so much for your response. I have viewed the situation. There is the larger filler tube and then a smaller tube (I am assuming that is the vent.) They both go into a plate that connects them to gas tank underneath vehicle. When the gas was coming out (at the gas station) it was a steady drip that then diminished. I ran the vehicle at idle when I got home for about 20 minutes. A little more gas came out then it seemed to cease. The gas tank still registers full with no gas spots underneath. Please let me know if you need any more information! If it is safe to drive, we'd like to continue our trip!
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Sunday, August 4th, 2013 AT 5:22 PM
Tiny
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Also, is it possible that just too much gas was added to tank and it had to go somewhere? What if we only fill to 3/4? Would this work? And be safe?

Thanks!
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Sunday, August 4th, 2013 AT 5:29 PM
Tiny
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T'WOULD BE NICE TO SEE A PIC OF ....EXACTLY....WHERE IT IS COMING OUT.......OR ONE WITH YOU POINTING AT IT WITH A PENCIL OR SOMETHING

....IS IT WHERE THE HOSE JOINS THE TANK.....IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HOSE?

FUEL DOES GET INTO THIS HOSE WHEN THE TANK IS BEING FILLED.......IT'LL GET INTO THIS HOSE WHEN THE FUEL IS SLOSHING AROUND

A FUEL LEAK CAN BE DANGEROUS..........SO IF "WE" CAN FIX IT, THAT'LL BE GOOD!

IF WE CAN'T.....I SUGGEST NOT DRIVING IT.....NO NEED HAVING FOR POSSIBLE CRISPY CRITTERS ON VACATION

IF IT IS AT ONE END OF THE HOSE OR THE OTHER......A SIMPLE HOSE CLAMP ADDED BESIDE THE FACTORY CLAMP MAY SQUEEZE THE HOSE TIGHT ON THE FITTING

IF IT IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HOSE.........ONE MIGHT CUT STRAIGHT THRU THE "HOLE" (AND NOW HAVE "TWO" HOSES..............INSERT ONE OF THESE (THE CORRECT SIZE)

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_brass-hose-connector-dayco_19590178-p?searchTerm=hose+repair

USE 2 HOSE CLAMPS TO SECURE IT

DO EITHER OPTION OF THESE LOOK FEASIBLE ???

THE MEDIC
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Sunday, August 4th, 2013 AT 7:28 PM
Tiny
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If it only leaks when the tank is filled it likely has a leak on top, either where the pump is dropped in or in an emissions vapor recovery hose. My '88 Grand Caravan has been leaking from the pump seal for the last 15 years ever since my students pulled it out to clean the pickup screen. The symptom was when the gas station pump shut off I could nurse in another six gallons to fill the air pocket on top until gas ran out through that seal. That air pocket is supposed to form a crush zone in case of a crash. As long as I only add two or three gallons after the gas pump shuts off, there's no leak and no smell.

Check for a leak after driving a dozen miles. You may still see wetness on the sides of the tank but if nothing is dripping, that will dry off shortly. Have the engine running when you check for leaks. That way the fuel pump will be running. If you do see dripping only with the engine running, that points to a rusted metal fuel line or a loose hose clamp. I also developed that on my Caravan, and found all four hose clamps at the fuel filter were rusted away. That has happened twice thanks to Wisconsin's overuse of road salt. You'll want to have that looked at right away.

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Friday, August 16th, 2013 AT 11:51 AM
Tiny
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JUST GOT A EMAIL NOTIFICATION

HOW DID THINGS WORK OUT?

THE MEDIC
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Friday, August 16th, 2013 AT 4:00 PM

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