Ignition switch removal?

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To replace the ignition switch assembly the entire steering column has to be removed anyway. So replacing column or replacing just the switch is up to you, either way column is coming out. Would you like replacement steps for your steering column?
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EVERETT POWERS
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1994 Oldsmobile Cutlass 6 cyl Automatic

key is stuck in the on position in the ignition how do I fix it
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If the key won't turn, either the tumbler is bad or the ignition switch in the steering column is bad. All you can do is remove the steering wheel and start working your way down checking each as you go.
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Replaced ignition switch and now tumbler wont turn
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Did you replace the ignition lock cylinder, or the electrical ignition switch. If it was just the lock cylinder, there should have been a code key provided, the matches the coding of the cylinder. It sounds like a key issue. If you replaced the ignition switch(electrical) on the lower column, and the cylinder won't turn, something was assembled incorrectly.
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I am replacing the ignition switch and there is a metal rod attached to the front side of the switch.(Not the rod that runs to the key module) What is it and how do I remove it from the switch/bracket?
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I am trying to replace the ignition switch because I had lost my key. I got as far as taking off the steering wheel and renting a steel plate remover that was not needed. I still cant figure out how to take the metal casing off the steering wheel coulomb. Help?
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Hello,

Need more info on vehicle. What Cutlass is it Supreme Ciera also is it tilt steering and is it floor shift or column shift. Also could you take and post pic looking into the steering column.

You shouldn't have to take the metal casing off looking down into the column after taking wheel off there should be a retaining screw that has to be removed to remove the Lock cylinder.
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How can I get my ignition switch that is stuck on the on position to turn back to the off position?
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Try spraying some WD-40 into the keyhole the best you can and move the key as much as possible to work in the light oil. Once key is out, spray more oil into switch and work it in and out with the key until you can replace the switch.

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I need some help. I went out to my car today and tried to start it. The key will not turn all the way into the starting position, (the position that you hold while it engages the starter). It will turn back ward to the accessories position and forward to the point where power is on to everything but beyond that it won't budge.

I double checked to make sure that the gear shift was all the way in park.

Please help me! I need to get to college!

Thanks in advance,
Samantha
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First try taking pressure off the lock, then turn the key. IF you pull either clockwise or counter clockwise a little on the steering wheel, the pressure will be taken of the steeing lock. If you are lucky.

IF not, try another key. Try bringing the key stronger up or down while turning or jiggling the key.

Still if not you likley need a lock cylinder.
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When I turn the key forward once the steering wheel unlocks so that is not the problem, and I have tried a different key and jiggling the key. So it must be like you said. Need a new cylinder, is this something I could do myself? If not do you know the average price I would be charged?
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I'm sure what skills or tool you have, but it is deep enough into the steering column that you'll have to remove the T/S switch to get to it.


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The key will have to be coded. I would guess it is a couple hundred to replace.
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Electrical problem
1985 Oldsmobile Cutlass 6 cyl Two Wheel Drive Automatic

how do I change the ignition switch on my car?
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This is an extremely difficult and lengthy procedure. You must remove the steering column from the vehicle and disassemble major portions of it. Because the column is collapsible in an accident, it is necessary that it be handled with care to avoid distortion of major parts. It must not be dropped, hammered on or even leaned on, or vitally important parts may deform. The procedure for replacing the ignition switch on tilt type columns is not included here because it involves substantial additional work and the use of several expensive special tools. Unless you are rather experienced, we recommend that the job be left to a competent professional mechanic.

1. Disconnect the negative battery cable. Remove the clamp bolt from the steering coupling at the lower end of the steering column shaft (located near the steering box, under the hood).
2. Disconnect the shift linkage from the shift tube lever at the lower end of the column.
3. Remove the steering wheel with a puller, as described above.
4. Remove the left sound insulator and lower column cover.
5. Remove the trim cap or lower trim panel from the instrument panel, depending on equipment.
6. Remove the steering column cover and toe-pan attaching screws. Remove the shift indicator needle from the shift bowl.
7. Securely support the column in position and remove the two nuts attaching the column to the underside of the instrument panel.
8. Lower the column carefully, being careful to retain any spacers that may have been used in order. Disconnect the wiring. Then, carefully remove the column from the inside of the vehicle.
9. Begin disassembling the column, removing the lock plate, canceling cam, and turn signal switch.
10. Remove the ignition lock and key warning switch as described below.
11. Remove the spring and bolt assembly, and the associated thrust washer. Then, remove the rack preload spring, switch rack, and actuator assembly.
12. Remove the upper shift lever spring. Then, remove the gear shift lever bowl.
13. Remove the shift bowl shroud and bowl lower bearing.
14. Unhook and remove the dimmer switch actuating rod. Remove the attaching nut and remove the dimmer switch.
15. Remove the attaching screw and stud and remove the ignition switch, disassembling the actuating rod from the hole in the sliding actuator.

To install:

16. Move the ignition switch sliding actuator all the way to the left (ACC) position. Then, move it two detents (OFF-UNLOCK) position to the right.
17. Then, position the actuating rod hole in the sliding actuator, and install the ignition switch, stud, and mounting screw.
18. Install the dimmer switch with its attaching nut tightened only loosely. Then, depress the switch slightly until you can insert a 3 / 32 in. Drill through the hole in the switch housing and slider. Force the switch upward to remove any lash and tighten the mounting screw with the switch in this position.
19. Put the shifter in NEUTRAL and install the shift lever.
20. Install the shift bowl shroud and bowl lower bearing.
21. Install the rack preload spring, switch rack, and actuator assembly. Install the spring and bolt assembly, and the associated thrust washer.
22. Install the ignition lock and key warning switch as described below.
23. Reinstall the column into the vehicle. Make sure when assembling the lower and upper dash covers that they can slide on the column. If the bracket which mounts the column to the dash has been removed, install the bolts in this order:
A. Left rear
B. Left front
C. Right front
D. Right rear

Tighten the bolts just snug to avoid distorting the column.

24. Install the switch connector to the ignition switch. Then, position the column in the body and support it there. Install the lockwashers and nuts for the coupling and tighten them. Then, loosely assemble the nuts fastening the mounting bracket for the column to the lower side of the instrument panel.
25. Position the lower cover to the firewall and ensure that the cover is lined up by starting the left lower screw. Then, install and tighten the right lower screw. Then, tighten the left lower screw. Finally, install and tighten the two screws that fit into the top of the cover.
26. Tighten first the screw for the left side of the cover clamp; then tighten the screw for the right side of the cover clamp. Finally, install and tighten the remaining cover screws.
27. Finally, tighten the nuts fastening the column to the underside of the dash. Reinstall the bolt for the steering coupling clamp.
28. Install the lock plate, canceling cam, and turn signal switch
29. Connect the wiring.
30. Securely support the column in position and install the two nuts attaching the column to the underside of the instrument panel.
31. Install the shift indicator needle from the shift bowl. Install the steering column cover and toe-pan attaching screws.
32. Install the trim cap or lower trim panel to the instrument panel, depending on equipment.
33. Install the left sound insulator and lower column cover.
34. Install the steering wheel, as described above.
35. Connect the shift linkage to the shift tube lever at the lower end of the column.
36. Install the clamp bolt to the steering coupling at the lower end of the steering column shaft (located near the steering box, under the hood).
37. Connect the negative battery cable and check all column operations for free movement and smooth operation.
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