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There is a slight scrape noise coming from the front driver's tire when turning left?

Tiny
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  • 2001 DODGE DAKOTA
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I have a slight scrape like noise on the front drivers tire that only happens as I turn to the left as straight it's not happening.
I tried to look at brake dust covering and separated it a tad more to be sure it wasn't touching as I turned wheel but couldn't detect it as well off the ground as I turned tire. It's a revolution type noise as the tire turns.
What all should I look at?
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Tuesday, April 25th, 2023 AT 9:47 AM

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Tiny
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Hi,

If you hear it when you turn the wheel, chances are it is the brakes or a wheel bearing. Did you inspect the brake pads to make sure that isn't an issue?

Also, when the wheel is off the ground, is there any play in it that may indicate a wheel bearing? Since this is 2wd, it should have an adjustable bearing.

Let me know.

Joe
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Tuesday, April 25th, 2023 AT 8:00 PM
Tiny
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Adjustable bearing?
I'll double check brake pads.
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Tuesday, April 25th, 2023 AT 9:04 PM
Tiny
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New bearing. It's only at a certain revelation scrape no noise rescrape as rolling forward and wheel turned a tad.
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Tuesday, April 25th, 2023 AT 9:06 PM
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Hi,

yep, adjustable. The hub is integral to the brake rotor. You have a separate inner and outer bearing that is adjusted when tightening it.

As far as your problem, make sure something such as the brake hardware sensor isn't touching. Also, if it is loud enough to record, upload it for me to hear.

Joe
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Wednesday, April 26th, 2023 AT 8:13 PM
Tiny
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What do you do to adjust bearing? Not that that is the issue I was just wondering.
I'll pull the pads and look at that dust cover and all.
I didn't notice it as manually turning it with steering wheel at the exact point I hear it at when driving slowly.
I'll update it a try to record it.
Thanks
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Thursday, April 27th, 2023 AT 12:27 AM
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Hi,

As far as adjustment, I attached three pics below. The first shows the rear of the rotor hub with a bearing. There is an outer bearing as well. Pic 2 shows the spindle. The last pic shows the spindle with the hub installed. I circled the hub nut that is used to adjust the bearing.

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Thursday, April 27th, 2023 AT 5:58 PM
Tiny
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I took off the brake pads and caliper and cleaned up everything and made sure the dust cover was not scraping. I put it all back and lubed up the areas that require it. Test drove and still hear it as far turn of wheel. There is no brake speed sensor and nothing appears to be hitting anything. Its only after steering wheel is turned over halfway to left. Nothing on right turns. Slight scrape then no sound then scrape no sound.
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Monday, May 1st, 2023 AT 10:51 AM
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If it is related to tire rotation when turning, the last thing is the bearing. I realize it is new, but there may have been a defect from the factory. Were you able to double-check the bearing?

Joe
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Monday, May 1st, 2023 AT 7:52 PM
Tiny
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Tell me again how to check bearing?
I turned the wheel with it up and didn't notice it doing that as wheel was turned at same angle as when driving.
One thing I saw, but it may not factor was those little brake pad clips that go on edge of each pad's ends were not on tops of pads but were on bottoms. Does not having those st top of both pads? Factor it?
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Monday, May 1st, 2023 AT 8:24 PM
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Hi,

There really shouldn't be hardware clips at the end of the pads. The rear pad has a push-in retainer spring, the outer pad has a clip that holds the pad to the caliper, and there is a caliper spring that holds things tight to eliminate noise. See pics below.

Is it possible for you to take a few pics and upload them for me? I need to see what you are referring to. I've owned Dakotas since 1989 and never remember using the thin, tin hardware on them. I always used what is shown in the pics.

Additionally, I need to see what type of bearing you have just to confirm. Because of where I live, I have always had 4wd trucks. I need to see the bearing you are dealing with. If, however, you had to install an inner and outer bearing and wheel seals, it should be adjustable. I just want to confirm.

Let me know.

Take care,

joe

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Monday, May 1st, 2023 AT 8:55 PM
Tiny
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I'm talking these little ones.
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Monday, May 1st, 2023 AT 9:06 PM
Tiny
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I'm talking these little ones. Do they not need to be on both ends of each pad?
Some of mine at top are missing.
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Monday, May 1st, 2023 AT 9:08 PM
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Hi,

They don't even show them in the manual, so I would say it is fine. They are rattle clips. Remove them but don't get rid of them until we confirm the sound is gone. Maybe it is the brand brakes you got that require them.

Let me know.

Joe
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Tuesday, May 2nd, 2023 AT 6:39 PM

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