ABS OBD1 code

Tiny
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Hi,

I came across an article on the website, with Mazda pre-1995 obd1 codes, and i'm curious to know if there is a longer list of fault codes for Mazda's, obviously newer than 1995 with obd1 :)
I got an ABS error I need to locate, and deal with.

Thanks!
Tuesday, August 20th, 2019 AT 6:38 PM

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Tiny
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Welcome to 2CarPros.

If the vehicle is newer than 1995, it will be OBD2. Let me know the code. I have manuals that provide codes for all of the components.

Also, to confirm, this is a 323? I will have information on the Protege, which is basically the same vehicle. However, the 323 wasn't offered in the US in 2000.

Also, here is a link to many OBD2 codes:

https://www.2carpros.com/trouble_codes/obd2

Let me know.

Joe
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Tuesday, August 20th, 2019 AT 8:01 PM
Tiny
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Hey Joe,

Just to confirm. Yes, it's a 323 S BJ (sold in Europe), and manufactured in 2000 with a 17 pin OBD1 in the engine compartment, close to the fuses and battery. :)
In many ways the European 323 BJ is similar to the protege, and in many searches I have had to look up the protege instead of the 323 to find various information and how-to.
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Wednesday, August 21st, 2019 AT 8:37 AM
Tiny
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Welcome back:

The closest engine size I have is a 1.6L. Let me know if you want info from that. If you give me the code you have, I will look it up for you. The code you indicated, 39, doesn't make sense. There is nothing listed for that. Did you use a scanner?

Let me know.

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Wednesday, August 21st, 2019 AT 5:46 PM
Tiny
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Hey Joe,

It's likely my fault for putting the question in the wrong spot (on mobile).

Yes, i'd like the information from the 1.6. :)

All I know for certain is my dashboard being lit up with abs, trc, trc off, and the brake, despite having no fluid leaks, and no difference in brake performance (dry as well as wet).
Also knowing which corner to start at means less unnecessary work. :)
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Wednesday, August 21st, 2019 AT 6:32 PM
Tiny
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I went through the codes and nothing for ABS is two digits. I have a feeling something is different because of the model. What are your thoughts on that?

Let me know.

Joe
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Thursday, August 22nd, 2019 AT 8:36 PM
Tiny
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Hey

I got around to figuring out, that I had to short TBS and ground to get the abs related reading, in contrary to using TEN.
I get a reading of 1 long, 3 short that keeps repeating
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Friday, August 23rd, 2019 AT 5:59 AM
Tiny
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Welcome back:

The only code I'm coming up with for a 13 is with the cruise control circuit. Take a look at the pic I attached.

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Friday, August 23rd, 2019 AT 11:52 AM
Tiny
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My 323 doesn't have cruise control, so I doubt that's the one.

However, with a bit of looking around, the exterior of the Protegé LX '99 looks just like my 323, with the exception that my blinker glass is white in the front.
You think there is similarities to be found in regards to error codes, and electronics aswell, regardless of engine size?
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Friday, August 23rd, 2019 AT 1:21 PM
Tiny
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Welcome back:

Honestly, that is my concern. I suspect there are differences and that is causing confusion.
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Friday, August 23rd, 2019 AT 8:30 PM
Tiny
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I hate how the page refreshes, everytime my screen tilts, and my already written answer goes down the drain, but.
Not sure if links is allowed.
Djdevon3's obd-1 93-95 guide on mazda626 seems to have relatable information, and an ABS error code list that makes sense, in regards to my error 13.
My obd-i port do have a bunch of blanks, but i'm sure enough it's the mecs-ii FS, European and US mixed for some reason.
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Saturday, August 24th, 2019 AT 5:44 AM
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Welcome back:

Wow, that looks totally different than the OBD ports here.

Joe
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Saturday, August 24th, 2019 AT 7:10 PM
Tiny
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I see, my best bet diagnostic wise would be to keep an eye on that guide, I guess.

I came across the 2carpros YouTube video on testing the ABS sensor yesterday, but i've yet to figure out where the sensor is located, as well as the wiring to said connector being tested on.

According to djdevon3's guide, it'd be my rear right - got drum brakes in the rear.
Something you'd know more specifically?
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Saturday, August 24th, 2019 AT 7:37 PM
Tiny
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Welcome back:

Honestly, I would be concerned if I said anything. There seems to be many differences.

Joe
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Sunday, August 25th, 2019 AT 7:22 PM
Tiny
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In that case, I appreciate your time and effort Joe. :)

I'll see if I can uncover similarities from searches, and work out something from there.
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Sunday, August 25th, 2019 AT 7:55 PM
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I wish I could have done better. If you could, let me know what you find. I did even try to find things online to help, but wasn't successful.

Take care of yourself.

Joe
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Sunday, August 25th, 2019 AT 8:06 PM
Tiny
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Thanks :)

I'll be back with an update, if I manage to find something.
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Monday, August 26th, 2019 AT 4:47 AM
Tiny
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I ended spending half an afternoon getting dirty.
ABS connector is located on the inside, behind the trim, between the seat and back door like the 626 (Protegé as well?), And the drum was pretty straightforward (nicked a bolt keeping abs wire in place, perfect fit for loosening the drum, just like a 2000 Protegé.
I did check the sensor, like in the video you guys made (and mentioned earlier), and I had fine readings - still went ahead and popped the drum, and cleaned a lot of gunk out.
Now, it's a tight fit putting it back together, as the brake shoes are lining up with not much room to spare (wheel does not run free, every rotation or so it gets tight, before and after cleaning).

I'll add a few pictures, to which I hope you can tell if the brake is good or bad (including springs).
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Monday, August 26th, 2019 AT 9:46 AM
Tiny
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Did it take care of the issue?

Joe
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Monday, August 26th, 2019 AT 5:35 PM
Tiny
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Afraid not, even with a reset from removing grounding battery cable, it picks up on the error rather quick.
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Monday, August 26th, 2019 AT 7:50 PM
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There has to be a wire that is bad.
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Wednesday, August 28th, 2019 AT 5:18 PM

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