I need an A/C compressor bypass belt

I am in Pennsylvania. I have the Experian "AutoCheck" vehicle history and the car originated from Florida.

The vehicle is listed above EX, 4 door sedan with a 2.0L I4 MPI engine. The image I attached shows the belt diagram as it is on the vehicle. I can't seem to find these routing diagrams anywhere, even though I can look at this: http://www.kifomanual.com/second_generation_yd_2014_2018_-2.html.

Okay, I see where it came from: https://www.kiapartsnow.com/genuine/kia-v-ribbed-belt 2521225020.html

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Thanks.

I am aware of the link being to the second gen. model, but that is the only choice I have. I don't have the same access to information as the professionals and what I have found so far is close enough. I just have to verify any information I find before taking any action.

This car seems to be an oddball, this is not the first time I had to figure things out for myself. When I bought the car two weeks ago, no lock remotes came with the car. I had to get refurbished OEM remotes and it turns out that this car shares the same remote programming with the 2010-2013 model years of the Kia Optima (the Forte is not even listed as an option in the locksmith's database).

I am going to ask the garage I go to for the current belt information (brand, part number and length). They just replaced this belt and had to have run into this problem. I am also going to do as you suggest and measure the route to calculate a length for a bypass belt. I had a brainstorm last night and started searching the DAYCO products website. (http://www.daycoproducts.com/online-catalog and https://www.dayco.com/en/contact-us/). I am going to contact them for their thoughts. They have access to pulley dimensions and distances between major engine components for all the major Auto manufacturers, so maybe someone there can calculate a length for an A/C compressor bypass belt for me.

I will report my findings.

FYI, I attached a photo of the routing I need to accomplish the task of bypassing the A/C.

The cross reference information I have gathered for this car is:
Kia 2521225010 = DAYCO 5060850 Effective Length (in) 85.04
(I believe this is for electric PS w/o AC)
Kia 2521225020 = DAYCO 5060988 Effective Length (in) 98.82
(I believe this is for electric PS with AC or hydraulic PS w/o AC)
Kia 2521225000 = DAYCO 5061020 Effective Length (in) 102
(I believe this is for hydraulic PS with AC)
I haven't verified these assumptions, but I suspect I have the DAYCO 5060988 currently installed and need the DAYCO 5060850 to accomplish my goal.

I have to check with my mechanic tomorrow; I didn't get the chance today.

Hi Joe,

Boy, was I wrong! There is no option for electric PS w/o AC, until I can measure or calculate it! I don't think I'm going to hear from the DAYCO guys, though. The belt my mechanic put on was a DAYCO 5060850.

So, the cross reference information is as follows:
Kia 2521225010 = DAYCO 5060850 Effective Length (in) 85.04
(This is for electric PS with AC)
Kia 2521225020 = DAYCO 5060988 Effective Length (in) 98.82
(This is for hydraulic PS w/o AC)
Kia 2521225000 = DAYCO 5061020 Effective Length (in) 102
(This is for hydraulic PS with AC)

I wouldn't laugh at any good suggestion. The nylon tape is an excellent idea. I am a surveyor and I have had to work with nylon tapes in the past, albeit much longer than a tailor's or seamstress's yard tape. A nylon tape will provide the perfect tension and thickness for me to get an accurate dimension, The problem may be finding the correct length of belt. I suppose I will have to remove the existing belt to get this measurement?

Too bad I can't just calculate the belt length. I have all the pulley dimensions (from the DAYCO site) except for the water pump pulley and the alternator pulley. Then I could measure center to center between the pulleys along the route that the belt would take. Oh, well. No idea where I would get those pulley dimensions. At this point it would be quicker to just pull the belt off and take the measurement directly. Extra work for me!

Thanks again for the nylon tape idea! Did I say that was an excellent idea? I won't be able to make the measurement until this weekend, or possibly even next weekend. I will make a report here when I can get to it.

Thanks for the support. Take care.

Tony

Joe,

I finally got the chance this past weekend to finish this project. Instead of replacing the A/C compressor, I took the chance that it was just the A/C compressor pulley making the noise, so I decided to replace it. The A/C in the car works well and the pulley contains a bearing and that's where the noise was coming from. When I removed the belt to check the pulley, it wobbled slightly and made noise as I rotated it, so I knew I had a pretty good chance of having made the correct diagnosis. It turns out, I was right. No more noise and the A/C works perfectly (as far as I know.I don't know how to properly check the A/C operation). This solution was more expensive than the A/C compressor bypass belt idea (about $120 vs $40), but it is a permanent solution. It is much less expensive than having to replace the A/C compressor and having risked other repairs due to a belt failure (My mechanic quoted me $1600 for a refurbished A/C system. He's nuts!).

After replacing the A/C compressor pulley and with the belt off, I measured from the crankshaft, around the idler pulley to the alternator (see the attached photo) and subtracted that measurement from the original belt length. I know it's not ideal, but there is so little room in that engine compartment, even if I could have made any of the other measurements, the chances of error would have been so high (I would have had to make 3-4 other measurements, both on the inside and outside of the belt to add the lengths together to get a final belt length) that I felt it was the best option.

The measurement was 347mm, the original belt length is 2160mm, so the result is 1813mm or about 71.38 in. I looked up a DAYCO belt that matches the original belt's thickness, width, number of ribs, material, and rib profile and a DAYCO 5060715 Effective Length (in) 71.5 will work. A DAYCO 5060710 Effective Length (in) 71.06 will also work, but it may be too short.

I hope this will help someone. I'm not going to actually try a new belt now that I actually fixed the problem I was having. I hope that if someone actually does get to try one of these belts, they will post their results here to let everyone know if it works.

Thanks for your support.
Tony

Actually, had my mechanic do this recently on the 2013 Kia Forte with electric power steering and bypassing licked up A/C compressor using belt 5060670.

The mechanic at the shop said they picked up four belts and this was the second one they tried which seemed to be the best fit. He said he had to remove that engine mount to get the idler pulley far enough over, but he made it sound like he wasn't sure if he absolutely had to.

Thank you all for this discussion it truly saved me right now, as I really didn't want to shell out $1,100-$1,400 on A/C going into winter and not sure the future of this car.