1993 Honda Prelude bad gas mileage with slight exhaust smok

Tiny
NAPRI266
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  • 1993 HONDA PRELUDE
  • 4 CYL
  • FWD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 15,000 MILES
The engine runs strong and sounds starts very easily, runs great, has plenty of power but is only getting about 11 mpg, exhaust smells very rich. Replaced plug wires, dist. Cap, rotor button, o2 sensor, air filter. Plugs look good still no effect on bad mpg. Am using 93 octane fuel
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Tuesday, March 2nd, 2010 AT 8:54 PM

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Tiny
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Hi napri266,

Thank you for the donation.

Was any repairs carried out prior to this occurring?

Is the ignition timing correctly set?

Did you check the throttle position sensor?
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Wednesday, March 3rd, 2010 AT 10:04 AM
Tiny
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Vehicle was recently purchased and has a new egr valve, checked timing and looks good, have not checked throttle position sensor. But would that cause the drastic consumption that is occuring. Its getting about 12 mpg Hiway. I replaced cat converter also because it looked like it was time. Still no improvement
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Thursday, March 4th, 2010 AT 8:11 PM
Tiny
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Yes, improperly adjusted TPS can cause a lot of difference.

Remove the spark plugs and check if they are sooty.

If the performance of the vehicle is poor, I wold suggest getting the timing belt checked for proper synchronising. If the Exhausr camshaft is in time you would get the ignition timing correct but if the Inlet camshaft is out of time, it would cause a drastic power loss and bad fuel consumption though the ignition timing is correct.

Is the Check Engine Light indicating when driving?

DId you try to retrieve for trouble codes?
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Friday, March 5th, 2010 AT 6:02 AM
Tiny
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Engine does not have any power loss runs and idles great. Check engine light comes on and off periodically. When I check code using a jumper in the service check connector it shows 2 long blinks and 3 short blinks = code 23 bad knock sensor. But no pinging or acceleration problems. The only symptoms it has are dramatic fuel consumption, slight white exhaust smoke and rich exhaust odor. Spark plugs are good. The engine is an H23A1 non Vtech
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Friday, March 5th, 2010 AT 8:58 PM
Tiny
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A bad knock sensor or trouble code from it indicates either the timing belt is out of sync, timing is too advanced or the fuel octane is too low for the setting.

Pinging is seldom audible for Honda engines and the knock sensor fault would not result in noticeable difference in the engine performance.

If the exhuast smoke is completely white, that is vapor and can be due to the weather or some problem with the head gasket which I doubt is the case as you mentioned it idles well.

If the smoke is slightly grey, it is oil burning and could be due to the valve seals.

Rich exhaust gas could be due to the EGR system not working correctly as the spark plugs don't seem to run rich.

For the high fuel consumption, it is a little puzzling as the spark plugs do not indicate a rich condition.

Any possibility of a faulty odometer reading?
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Saturday, March 6th, 2010 AT 7:27 AM
Tiny
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Yes, I was lied to, mileage is 248k with new timing belt
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Monday, March 29th, 2010 AT 9:44 PM
Tiny
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Have you found the cause of the problem?
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Tuesday, March 30th, 2010 AT 9:34 AM

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