1992 Honda Accord

Tiny
TEXASJAMESC
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  • 1992 HONDA ACCORD
  • 4 CYL
  • FWD
  • MANUAL
  • 200,000 MILES
Last night the starter went out on m accord. I was able to push start the car. Today as I was driving down the road and everything was fine, but then it lost all power, I was unable to bump start it. The oil is good, the battery SEEMS fine. The only other problems I have had is the cv joints, and the idle in the mornings will go fast and then slow and back again untill it warms up. The rear defroster is not working and heater blower is not working and around the fuse panel under hood is sorta rusted. Im just throwing these out there. Push starting is not working and I was driving down the road untill it just stopped. Can anyone help?
Thursday, October 29th, 2009 AT 4:11 PM

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Tiny
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Hi TexasJamesC,

Does the dash lights comes on when ignition is turned ON?

Did you check what was missing?

http://www.2carpros.com/kpages/first_things.htm

Check above link to see if you can find out what is missing.
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Saturday, October 31st, 2009 AT 12:50 PM
Tiny
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None of the gauges have worked since I bought the car a few weeks ago, the dash light does come on though. When I turn the key, the car does not turn over. The battery light does come on. Attempts to jumpstart do not work. The first day the starter seemed to not work, we pushe started it because its a manual. That does not work now. Checking simalir posts, I saw things such as pgm-fi relay, ign fuse, ign switch. Im sure this is some form of electrical. I do not get paid for a week, so at the moment I cant even replaceparts-troubleshoot. Im just trying to see if maybe there is something I am missing.
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Saturday, October 31st, 2009 AT 4:19 PM
Tiny
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As the dash lights are showing, it would rule out the possibility of power supply failure.

However without the ability to crank the engine, it is not going to be easy to go about testing the system for failures.

If it is a fault with the PGM-FI main relay, it would not work the fuel pump. Turn ignitionON and listen for fuel pump operations, If there are no whiring noise, the CEL might ot go OFF after 2 seconds indicating the relay could be the cause.

If it is ignition fault, without the ability to crank, you won't be able to diagnose.

As to the starter, give it some knocks and see if it works, worn carbons might be coaxed into working at least for a few cranks.

Remove the starter solenoid wire and attach a remote wire to apply battery voltage to try to ctrank it.
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Sunday, November 1st, 2009 AT 5:58 AM
Tiny
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First, I would like to thank you for responding to me. Its really appriciated. I intend to donate at the end of the week when I get my check.

1-Ok so I tried banging on the starter- Nothing

2-Also, I may have been wrong about dash lights. When it gets dark im going to check those again.

3-The Headlights are full system go as well as radio and ac and such.

4-When I turn the key, there is no noise whatsoever from the engine. The only light I could see on the dash was the battery light, and it stays on continuosly, but I appear to have power.

As for the PGI-FM relay, if it is the one im spotting under the dash, it looks to be new-ish, but that could just be decieving because its underdash and never touched. My friend is supposed to test it with a computer to see what the pfoblem is, if I get any messages I will send them to you.
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Sunday, November 1st, 2009 AT 10:08 AM
Tiny
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You are welcomed.

Sorry if I had not been clear with my reply.

When I mentioned the dashlights, I meant the indicator lights and as the charge indicator is on, it means the ignition switch should be ok.

Here is a location diagram of the PGM-FI main relay.


http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/192750_PGMFIRelay92Accord_7.jpg



Yes, looks can be deceiving. Remove the relay and do a visual inspection of it. If the terminals have signs of cracked solders on any of the joints, resolder them and it should be as good as new.

You would have to get the starter working so as to be able to crank the engine.
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Monday, November 2nd, 2009 AT 6:32 AM

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