1996 Geo Metro Shifting into first feels rough, along with

Tiny
MOSTCALLMEROB
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  • 1996 GEO METRO
  • 4 CYL
  • FWD
  • MANUAL
  • 66,000 MILES
Hey guys, 96' Metro with 66000 highway miles. I just bought the car and just recently I noticed first gear felt rough. From a dead stop with the clutch to the floor, shifting into first feels rough. It's almost as if there is something blocking me from going into gear or it will feel like it moves into gear in rough gaps. Twice so far I couldn't shift at all and had to go down to second then back into first and it went in no problem. Also, if I put it in first from neutral, then back to neutral, and back in first with the clutch compressed the whole time it will go in smooth after the second time. Other times from a dead stop it will go in smooth as butter. Another thing I noticed is that if I am at around a 2mph roll and put it in first it will go in no problem whatsoever. Lately, other gears are feeling a bit "crunchy." It's on the original clutch and now the clutch engages at the VERY top of the pedal, to the point where I cannot accelerate until the pedal is fully released. Once in gear it doesn't slip at all, but there is not really any grab point. And another problem that happens periodically is that it grinds when I put it into reverse, and other times it won't go into reverse at all (that blockage feeling). It didn't do any of this when I bought it 1,000 miles ago.

On another note I recently began noticing that when I press in the clutch I hear a "psshh" sound, sort of like air being released, it's odd and only does it when I am moving. I tried this at a stop and no sound was made, it's only when I am moving with the clutch in.

There are three things I could think of are the synchros, clutch almost gone, or a simple adjustment. If you could help I'd greatly appreciate it.

Another note, I just replaced the transaxle fluid with the recommended weight and grade gear oil. (75W90)

Thank you, Rob
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Thursday, February 4th, 2010 AT 9:00 PM

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Tiny
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There is an adjusting nut on the trans where the clutch cable attaches.The clutch pedal should have 1/2 to 1 inch of "freeplay" that is where the pedal moves but the cluth cable isnt being pulled on.If there is no freeplay the clutch is out of adjustment. otherwise it sounds like the clutch may be going bad or have aproblem with the pressure plate.


http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/1639_geo1_1.jpg

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Friday, February 5th, 2010 AT 7:51 AM
Tiny
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I did notice that the freeplay of the clutch was somewhat excessive, maybe around 1 1/2" or being I started feeling any resistance. I'll try adjusting that and report back. Thanks for responding so fast.
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Friday, February 5th, 2010 AT 9:34 AM
Tiny
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Hopefully its just an adjustment. Youre welcome
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Friday, February 5th, 2010 AT 11:03 AM
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I did make the adjustment and it did shorten the amount of freeplay in the pedal, but it is still going into first crunchy at times. It's random and does it when it wants to, the other gears feel smoother, and the odd part is that when the car is off and I run through the gears with the clutch in it is smooth and goes in every gear with no problem.
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Friday, February 5th, 2010 AT 12:34 PM
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If itis first only, it may be an issue in the trans, with a synchro going out. Check the shifter to be sure all the bushings are good and everything is tight
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Saturday, February 6th, 2010 AT 7:28 AM
Tiny
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I'm thinking it is a synchro due to its randomness and how it will go into gear perfectly when on a very slow roll. I'm not too familiar with how I could check the bushings on the shifter. Do you have a manual or diagram that could show me?
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Monday, February 8th, 2010 AT 1:15 AM
Tiny
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My software doent have any pics of it. Just inspect all pivot points for the shifter, as well as all linkages related to the shifter. Some may be under the car and require it to be up on stands for inspection.
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Monday, February 8th, 2010 AT 7:29 AM

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