2003 Ford Mustang Radio & Anti-theft


Electrical problem
2003 Ford Mustang 6 cyl Two Wheel Drive Automatic 81500 miles

I have a 2003 Mustang that my son installed an satellite radio that was wired to shut off snd come on when the ignition was turned off and on. The positive wire was plugged directly into the fuse box.
My wife no longer wanted the satellite radio so I removed the factory intalled radio disconected the satellite radio and re-intalled the factory radio.
Now the car will not start, the instrument cluster will not work. I believe this has something to do with the anti-tjeft. Without having to have the car towed to the dealership for reprogramming is there anything I can do to get the car going again?

Do you
have the same problem?
Wednesday, March 4th, 2009 AT 1:59 AM

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Have you checked ALL the fuses. The instrument cluster should still light up. Even if the immoblizer was the problem !

The passive anti-theft system (PATS) contains the following components:
theft indicator
encoded ignition key
transceiver module
instrument cluster
powertrain control module (PCM)
standard corporate protocol (SCP) communication network
The PATS uses radio frequency identification technology to deter a driveaway theft. Passive means that it does not require any activity from the user. This system is known as SecuriLock(R) in North America, Safeguard(R) in the U.K. And PATS in continental Europe. This information can be found in owners literature.
The PATS uses a specially encoded ignition key. Each encoded ignition key contains a permanently installed electronic device called a transponder. Each transponder contains a unique electronic identification code, with over 72 million billion combinations.
Each encoded ignition key must be programmed into the vehicle's instrument cluster (the instrument cluster is also known as a hybrid electronic cluster [HEC]), before it can be used to start the engine. There are special diagnostic procedures outlined in the workshop manual that must be carried out if new encoded ignition keys are to be installed.
The encoded key is larger than a traditional ignition key. The key does not require batteries and should last the life of the vehicle.
The transceiver module communicates with the encoded ignition key. This module is located behind the steering column shroud and contains an antenna connected to a small electronics module. During each vehicle start sequence, the transceiver module reads the encoded ignition key identification code and sends the data to the instrument cluster.
The control functions are contained in the instrument cluster. This module carries out all of the PATS functions such as receiving the identification code from the encoded ignition key and controlling engine enable. The instrument cluster initiates the key interrogation sequence when the vehicle ignition switch is turned to RUN or START.
The PATS uses the PCM to enable or disable the engine. The instrument cluster communicates with the PCM over the SCP network in order to enable engine operation. The instrument cluster and the PCM use sophisticated messages in order to prevent a theft. The instrument cluster and the PCM share security data (when first installed together) that makes them a matched pair. After this security data sharing, these modules will not function in other vehicles. The shared PCM ID is remembered even if the battery is disconnected. The instrument cluster also stores the vehicle's key identification code even if the battery is disconnected. There are special diagnostic procedures outlined in this workshop manual that may be carried out if either a new instrument cluster or PCM needs to be installed.
All elements of PATS must be functional before the engine is allowed to start. If any of the components are not working correctly, the vehicle will not start.
PATS uses a visual theft indicator. This indicator will prove out for three seconds when the ignition switch is turned to RUN or START under normal operation. If there is a PATS problem, this indicator will either flash rapidly or glow steadily (for more than three seconds) when the ignition switch is turned to RUN or START. PATS also "blips" the theft indicator every two seconds at ignition OFF to act as a visual theft deterrent.

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Wednesday, March 4th, 2009 AT 6:01 AM


Thanks for the response. As I a have said, there appears to be an
electrical problem here and I was wondering if I purchased an OBDII tool if
I could fix the problem myself. Every once in a while I get the instrument
panel to respond but no starting up the engine. The odometer is just a
series of lines and when I turn the ignition, it just shuts down. Anything
register with you as the problem now>

Thanks in advance.


Sorry not responded sooner. I deal with quite a few post's and had to figure out which was yours. Lol. Try and stick to this way of replying. So I know where i'm upto?. Lol.

You would need to buy an OBDII reader that could read all the ECU/PCM and programme key's. It sounds like it is a problem with the PCM, rather than the immoboliser?

The instrument cluster receives an odometer message from the PCM and stores the mileage in memory. When the instrument cluster fails to receive the odometer message for more than two seconds, the odometer will display dashes.

You say you get the dash working sometimes? Do you just get the odometer? Or does it all light up?
Can you check fuse #21 in Central Junction Box (CJB)Behind dash, left of steering column.. This B+ (hot feed) to the PCM. Let me know

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Wednesday, March 4th, 2009 AT 4:54 PM

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