Failed smog test twice

Tiny
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  • 2001 DODGE CARAVAN
  • 3.8L
  • 6 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 152,000 MILES
First time failed smog test due to "check engine" light being "on". Repair shop performed "smoke test", replaced leaky hose. (Unrelated to smog test, but also replaced serpentine belt).

Second time failed smog test due to "engine light" not lighting when car is started. Help!
Wednesday, October 23rd, 2019 AT 2:58 AM

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Tiny
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Hi,

So if the check engine light does not come on at all then it is not running the self check which means if is most likely failing the self check.

We need to hook up a scan tool and see if there are any codes and go from there. Unfortunately, the previous issue of the leaky hose is a different issue.

Let me know if there are codes and we can go from there. Thanks
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Wednesday, October 23rd, 2019 AT 5:11 PM
Tiny
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Thank you for answering so quickly. I will try to get AutoZone or repair shop or dealer to get codes with scan tool tomorrow and let you know result. I wonder if the repair shop failed to "re-set" the car's computer after replacing the leaky hose and the serpentine belt. I read that it must be "re-set" after they work on the car - by plugging in the scan tool, turning on the ignition without actually starting the car, then depressing the accelerator pedal all the way down 3 consecutive times for 30 second each time. Any thoughts on this? Thanks a bunch. Katoka
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Wednesday, October 23rd, 2019 AT 9:49 PM
Tiny
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Sounds good.

In order to clear codes on this vehicle with a scan tool they just need to select the option on the scan tool of "clear codes" and the tool will do it.

This is not required when there are codes in the system because they are either Active or Stored. When they are Active that means the issue is currently happening which means it is currently "broken."

When the codes are stored however, this means the issue is not currently happening and the computer just holds them for a specific amount of time so that a mechanic can reference what happened if the customer does not bring the vehicle in while the issue is happening. This gives them a better chance at seeing what happened and fixing it. If they don't clear these and reset the computer then leaving stored codes in the system is harmless.

Its like leaving your book mark in a book when you return it to the library. Others can see where you were but its not going to hurt the book. Sorry for the analogy.

Plus not doing this is not going to cause the check engine light to not come on during the self test.

One more question. Can you get a video of the cluster when you are starting the vehicle? This will help ensure we are on the same page.

Then let's see what the codes are and if the reader can communicate with the PCM and go from there. Thanks
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Thursday, October 24th, 2019 AT 2:58 PM

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