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Excessive fuel consumption?

Tiny
DAVID DAVO ESSIEN
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  • 2003 HONDA ACCORD
  • 3.0L
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  • 213,442 MILES
Good evening, all. Yesterday, a client told me to fix his excessive fuel consumption in the car listed above. The engine was idling okay but about every 2-5 minutes at idle the engine idling would be so low as if it wants to go off but would regain power after that by itself. The low idling would be always about 5-10 seconds only. But after every about 4-6 spontaneous low idling. This scenario reoccurred as long as the engine was left idling.
In addition, the client took me on a test drive and complaint off gas, like pepper entering his eyes, I testified to that fact too.
These were the codes I retrieved below:

P0498
Confirmed
EVAP System Vent Valve Control Circuit Low

P0141
Confirmed
O2 Sensor Heater Circuit Bank 1 Sensor 2

P0134
Confirmed
O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected Bank 1 Sensor 1
P0154

Confirmed
O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected Bank 2 Sensor 1
P2240

Confirmed
O2 Sensor Positive Current Control Circuit/Open Bank 2 Sensor 1
P2237

Confirmed
O2 Sensor Positive Current Control Circuit/Open Bank 1 Sensor 1
P0406

Confirmed
Exhaust Gas Recirculation (Egr) Valve Position Sensor Circuit High Voltage
P0113

Confirmed
Intake Air Temperature Sensor 1 Circuit High Bank 1

Please, what could be responsible for that?
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Sunday, January 14th, 2024 AT 11:41 AM

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Tiny
KEN L
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There are three codes that will help us fix it, first is the.

P0498 - EVAP System Vent Valve Control Circuit Low

and

Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Valve Position Sensor Circuit High Voltage
P0113

and

Intake Air Temperature Sensor 1 Circuit High Bank 1

The remainder of the codes are because of the rich mixture. Let's start by checking the EVAP purge valve, please remove it and if you can blow through it, the valve is no good and needs to be replaced.

Next, I would remove the EGR valve to see if you can blow through that as well, if so, the valve is bad.

Here is a video that can help:

https://youtu.be/DqUCbbKdWf4?si=O-UW3obaMe64Gz2y

And then finally the air intake air temperature sensor which I would check the connections to and fi okay replace the sensor. Check out the images (below). Please let us know what happens.

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Sunday, January 14th, 2024 AT 2:19 PM
Tiny
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Thank you so much for the guide! Sorry, I didn't complete what diagnosed!
I replaced the O2 sensor that's close to the firewall because after using a multimeter to conduct the test, I discovered that it was faulty.
As a result, I didn't notice the rough idle again and stalling stop then, but I don't know if it reoccurred after I left. I cleared the codes, and it all went away too except the P0498 that was the only one that remained. But I don't know if others came back again.
Recently, the client called and said the car is still consuming fuel. Please, what should I do from here?
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Sunday, January 14th, 2024 AT 11:10 PM
Tiny
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Where is the EVAP system vent valve control circuit location for the car? Does this code have anything to do with the canister close to the fuel tank?
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Sunday, January 14th, 2024 AT 11:15 PM
Tiny
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The EVAP vent control valve is at the rear of the car near the fuel tank. Did you get a chance to check the purge solenoid? Here is the location of the canister vent valve. I would clear the codes and then take it for a short drive and then run the codes again. Check out the images (below). Let us know how it goes.
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Monday, January 15th, 2024 AT 9:02 AM
Tiny
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Thank you so much for the guide! I'll give you feedback on that later when I check that. Please, can you also guide me on how to test the EVAP for the car and the resistance value for it? Thank you in advance.
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Monday, January 15th, 2024 AT 9:37 AM
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I would put 12 volts to them to see if they click. That is the best way to test them. Also have a hose attached to see if you can blow through the valve.
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Tuesday, January 16th, 2024 AT 9:04 AM
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Okay. What medium should I use, my mouth or vacuum pump? What if I'm able to blow air through, is it faulty or not?
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Tuesday, January 16th, 2024 AT 9:26 AM
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Either will work, air will pass through it or not, if air does go through it when there is no power to it, means that it is bad.
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Wednesday, January 17th, 2024 AT 8:58 AM
Tiny
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Okay. Thank you so much for the update. However, if there's 12volts power to the circuit, must air always pass through it? This I want to know for the issue and subsequent related car issues. Thank you in advance!
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Wednesday, January 17th, 2024 AT 9:50 AM
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Yes, when the valve has 12 volts it should open to pass air through it.
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Wednesday, January 17th, 2024 AT 10:10 AM
Tiny
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Thank you so much sir for the guide! I've learned a lot from you.
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Wednesday, January 17th, 2024 AT 10:12 AM
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You are welcome, please let us know how it goes.
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Thursday, January 18th, 2024 AT 10:25 AM

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