Engine noise

Tiny
REDTAHITI
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  • 1970 OLDSMOBILE 442
  • 7.5L
  • V8
  • 50,000 MILES
This is a 455 olds in a jet boat. I winterized it last fall removed the tarp I had on it last week to work on a bad place in the floor. I thought I would start before I covered it back up well it fired right off but had an awful rattling noise in the front of the engine. This noise was not there last summer. Only started it twice and run it about thirty seconds each time. When I rev it a little I do not hear the noise until it comes back down to a idle. I am changing the oil and filter and pulling the plugs and turning it over a few time before trying to start it again.
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Monday, April 16th, 2018 AT 3:33 AM

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Tiny
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Good morning.

Inspect the oil when you drain it and see if there is any evidence of water or metal particles.

Is it possible that water may have got into the oil system?

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Monday, April 16th, 2018 AT 4:18 AM
Tiny
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Thank you very much.
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Monday, April 16th, 2018 AT 5:03 AM
Tiny
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Wow, does not sound good at all.

Does not sound like valve train. It sounds like lower end.

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Monday, April 16th, 2018 AT 5:06 AM
Tiny
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Just do not understand what could of happened to it just setting there.
I have run across a lot of different problems with engines but this one's got me stumped! I will try changing the oil and re-priming the pump.
Will let you know.
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Monday, April 16th, 2018 AT 5:18 AM
Tiny
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You are welcome.

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Monday, April 16th, 2018 AT 5:21 AM
Tiny
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To me is looks like that alternator pulley is loose. If you watch the fins they appear to be slowing down when the noise is loudest. You can definitely see the belt flopping.
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Monday, April 16th, 2018 AT 4:12 PM
Tiny
REDTAHITI
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I am going to untarp again this weekend and give it a good going over.
I will check the alternator pulley and harmonic balancer.
Thank you very much for your reply.
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Monday, April 16th, 2018 AT 6:51 PM
Tiny
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Sounds like a plan.

Try removing the belt and run the engine to confirm.

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Monday, April 16th, 2018 AT 6:58 PM
Tiny
REDTAHITI
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Back again
Checked alternator and harmonic balancer both good.
Pumped out oil, took old filter apart and found no metal shavings, and yes there was some water in oil, I've learned all jet boats get water in the oil sooner or later.
Anyway I filled a new filter up with oil put it on and filled the crankcase with good 10-40w oil took out the plugs cranked it over about 20 time, put plugs back in hooked it to water hose so I could run it longer I went to the right side of the engine and the noise was louder, I pulled the valve cover tappits were dry turned it over by hand and check for loose tappits none.
It seamed like they were to tight could not wiggle any of them.
Started motor with out valve cover and let run for seconds no oil.
I'm thinking lifter or oil pump.
I live in ne oklahoma it got into and it got down to 0 a couple of times could that water in the oil have froze and broke lifter or oil pump.
I'm going back out and pull the other valve cover, probably have to pull intake and the engine before it over, was hoping to start the summer a better
Sorry for ramble any advice is appreciated
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Thursday, April 19th, 2018 AT 12:45 PM
Tiny
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Ok, yes, it sounds like you need to start at the oil pump.

What you could do is this. Get a primer for the oil and remove the oil pressure switch. Then insert the primer into that port and force feed oil into the system with valve covers off. Then see if you oil to the top end. That will at least tell you if the ports are all open and able to transfer oil into the system.

You can rent a primer or make your own from an empty R134 freon container. I used this to prime all my motors after I rebuilt them.

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Thursday, April 19th, 2018 AT 12:51 PM
Tiny
REDTAHITI
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Thank you ill see if I can find one
Autozone rents tools ill see if they have one.
I pulled the other valve cover and it was super clean inside but no oil.
I'll try what you said,
Thank you for your advice
Will keep you posted
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Thursday, April 19th, 2018 AT 2:08 PM
Tiny
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Your welcome.

Keep us updated

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Thursday, April 19th, 2018 AT 2:47 PM

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