ECM replaced, now instrument cluster not working, misfires and tries to stall

Tiny
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After a no start, an ECM was replaced, now why would the instrument cluster be non responsive and after start the car misfires and tries to stall?
Friday, July 12th, 2019 AT 8:00 AM

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Tiny
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Good morning.

did the dash respond with the old PCM?

Did you have the replacement flashed to your car?

New or used PCM?

Are there any codes stored?

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/engine-misfires-or-runs-rough

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Friday, July 12th, 2019 AT 8:18 AM
Tiny
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Morning, yes car was perfect before no start. No signs of anything. Yes the ECM was programmed. It was a rebuilt ECM. No codes with old ECM. With new ECM there is a fuel level sensor code.
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Friday, July 12th, 2019 AT 8:38 AM
Tiny
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Also before ECM was claimed bad a new starter was put on. Old starter claimed to be bad. But there was still a no start after new starter. Was getting no power to relay switch or circuit.
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Friday, July 12th, 2019 AT 8:40 AM
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Okay, the PCM does provide power to the relay, You need to test for power at the relay in the start position.

I attached a diagram for you.

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Friday, July 12th, 2019 AT 2:59 PM
Tiny
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The car now starts with ECM replacement, it just that now I'm having multiple issues like misfires, stalling after start until accelerate. Also instrument cluster seems to be damage. There's lights on cluster but no info. All gauges are non working. Also information such as fuel level are not communicating.
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Friday, July 12th, 2019 AT 3:31 PM
Tiny
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The car has lost power while driving.
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Friday, July 12th, 2019 AT 3:32 PM
Tiny
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With the misfires, it will lose power. You need to check the items I listed.

Was the dash working before the PCM replacement?

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Friday, July 12th, 2019 AT 3:37 PM
Tiny
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Okay, and yes the dash was completely working before replacement.
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Friday, July 12th, 2019 AT 3:42 PM
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Okay, that is pointing to the PCM.

Where did you get the PCM?

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Friday, July 12th, 2019 AT 3:55 PM
Tiny
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It was used, salvage yard.
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Friday, July 12th, 2019 AT 3:58 PM
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That's no good. That's the issue. You need a rebuilt or new one especially since you had it programmed.

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Friday, July 12th, 2019 AT 4:19 PM
Tiny
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Okay, any suggestions on where to get a rebuilt ECM?
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Friday, July 12th, 2019 AT 4:21 PM
Tiny
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Okay, rock auto is the best deal. You will have to have it programmed to your car.

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Friday, July 12th, 2019 AT 4:42 PM
Tiny
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Okay, is this a new part?
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Friday, July 12th, 2019 AT 5:42 PM
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Yes, no core.

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Friday, July 12th, 2019 AT 5:49 PM
Tiny
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Roy thank you so much.
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Friday, July 12th, 2019 AT 5:52 PM
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You are welcome.

Always glad to help.

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Friday, July 12th, 2019 AT 6:07 PM
Tiny
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Hello,
Now I'm getting u0100 code? Please help.
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Wednesday, July 24th, 2019 AT 10:12 AM
Tiny
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OK, What does not function in the system?

Did you get everything else fixed yet?

Roy

Diagnostic Aids

* A control module may have a U-code stored in history that does not require any repairs. Issues with late or corrupted messages between control modules can be temporary with no apparent symptom or complaint; this does not mean the control module is faulty. Do not replace a control module based only on a history U-code.
* Do not replace a control module reporting a U-code. The U-code identifies which control module needs to be diagnosed for a communication issue.
* Communication may be available between the BCM and the scan tool with either the low or high speed GMLAN serial data system inoperative. This condition is due to the BCM using both the low and high speed GMLAN systems.
* Use Data Link References (See: Information Bus > Initial Inspection and Diagnostic Overview > Data Link References) to determine if the module uses high or low speed GMLAN serial data communications.
* Some control modules may not have internal protection for specific control circuits and may open a B+ or ignition fuse. If a fuse is open and the B+ or ignition circuit is not shorted to ground, ensure none of the control circuits are shorted to ground before replacing the control module.
* This diagnostic can be used for any control module that is not communicating, regardless of the type of serial data circuit it is connected to, providing the vehicle is equipped with the control module.
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Wednesday, July 24th, 2019 AT 10:24 AM
Tiny
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Replaced 02 sensor. No change.
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Wednesday, July 24th, 2019 AT 11:27 AM

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