Acts like there is a misfire when engine temperatures reach 150 degrees

Tiny
PAYJOBS
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  • 2002 JEEP WRANGLER
  • 2.5L
  • 4 CYL
  • 4WD
  • MANUAL
  • 120,000 MILES
Runs fine until it reaches about 150 degree engine temperature then acts like it has a misfire. Has no misfire counts on scanner. Also has new cap and rotor new plugs and wires. Had an engine tap so I put new lifters in.
Tuesday, May 7th, 2019 AT 9:41 AM

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Tiny
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Hi Payjobs,

Even though it is not counting misfires, does not mean that it is not misfiring. The way the PCM counts misfires and then turns the light on is by not seeing a crankshaft acceleration after it fires the spark plug. If it sees this acceleration then it will not count until it sees other indicators showing a misfire.

We need to determine if this is actually misfiring by looking at the o2 sensor data. See what your short term and long term fuel trims are and send me those numbers while it is running rough.

The fact that it does not start running rough until it warms up indicates that this is switching to closed loop which means it starts reacting off the o2 sensors.

This could mean you have a faulty o2 sensor or a different sensor giving the PCM bad data, or the PCM itself.

However, we need to start with if it is actually misfiring and the o2 data will tell us that. Send me those numbers and we can go from there.

Here is a bunch of resources that will help point us in a better direction. Thanks

https://youtu.be/QTE8k06MzwQ

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-an-oxygen-sensor-02-sensor

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/engine-vibration-at-idle
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Wednesday, May 8th, 2019 AT 3:05 PM

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