Dome and Door Courtesy lights not coming on with front passenger door (2007 Sedan)

2007 HONDA ACCORD
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WTFMAN
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Hello,

Opening my front passenger door doesn't trigger the door light or the overhead dome light to come on as they do with every other door.

The door panel light was working this morning, but flickered out, and I replaced it with a new bulb (didn't work) and then tried another bulb (didn't work). Later I turned on the dome light to the "door" setting, and saw it wasn't coming on with that particular door open either.

The dome light obviously works, because the other three doors trigger it - but it seems like whatever makes the side door panel light and the overhead light are connected so that one won't come on if the other isn't functioning - is that correct?

Is there a way to test if it is the passenger door jamb switch, or (more likely) just a loose wire behind the bulb socket I'd been messing with?

Any tips would be appreciated.

Oct 21, 2013 at 4:21 PM
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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Chances are the switch is bad. Remove the switch and check to see if there is power to it. Then, if there is power, check to see if the power gets through the switch.

Let me know what you find.
Oct 21, 2013 at 6:10 PM
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WTFMAN
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I removed the switch and replaced it with one I knew was functioning, but it turns out that switch must be good. ...It works in the door I swapped it to, but the problem door still doesn't work, with either switch.



Oct 23, 2013 at 8:51 AM
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Check to see if there is power to the switch. Let me know what you find.
Oct 23, 2013 at 5:33 PM
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Nope; I checked it against the other doors - I register a little under 12v at the other jamb switches and bulb sockets - but neither the jamb or the door light has power on the problem door.
Oct 26, 2013 at 10:15 AM
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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Then there is a break before the switch. Are you able to trace the wiring from the switch?
Oct 26, 2013 at 4:41 PM
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Possibly. The wire runs inside the (B?) Pillar - the one directly between the doors, and then downward toward the frame. I'm not sure where it goes from there.

I own a multimeter; will I need another tool to trace this wire?

Would it make sense to check another position or two in the car? ...I am told that other than loose connections or breaks, there is a Multiplex ICU in the fuse box which can be the problem.
Oct 29, 2013 at 3:47 PM
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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I don't think that would affect only one door. As far as the tester, what you have should work. Trace the wires to see where power is lost.
Oct 29, 2013 at 6:51 PM
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Thanks for all your help. I am not positive that I am performing the trace correctly, but had a tough time searching for the technique. Could you describe (or send me a link re:) using this multimeter to trace a wire within the car?

I am using a GE 2524 Digital

This single wire coming from the door jamb quickly joins a heavy bundle that goes down into the side sill, and then branches into three complex-looking arteries that head left toward the driver door. It appears highly protected.

I tried to test for Ohms at that switch and at the light socket - I was able to get results from the functioning doors, but from the problem door neither from the socket or the switch did I register Ohms.

According to the wiring diagram, there are only three wires involved in that door's lighting:
> A single green/red from the problem door's jamb switch to the Multiplex ICU, grounded with the switch.
> A hot white/blue wire from the fuse to the light socket, and then a yellow/green wire from the socket to the MICU

Kindof like this:
[fuse]--white/blue--(bulb)---yellow/green---[MICU]---green/red--[switch+ground]

If the lights are all connected directly to the fuse, should that light socket have power even if the door switch doesn't? Would grounding the white/blue wire cause the light to come on, if that were the case?

I am wondering if power to the door switch might actually be dependent on the light socket's connection...
Oct 30, 2013 at 6:49 AM
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What you are saying is correct. If power goes directly from the fuse to the socket, you should be able to turn the light on by grounding the neg wire. However, it sounds like there is no power. The only thing you can do is search as to where the wire loses power.

As far as your meter, I'm not familiar with this model. However, you should be able to check for DC voltage. Is that correct?
Oct 30, 2013 at 8:37 AM
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Ok. Yes, the meter is one of those $10 yellow models from Walmart, but it does detect DC current.
Oct 30, 2013 at 1:12 PM
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Funny, I have the same one... lol It will do the job. You are seeking 12v of DC power in the power supply. Somewhere it is lost. You need to find where.

I realize this is a pain in the neck job. Just hang in there.
Oct 30, 2013 at 4:51 PM