95 Cirrus sputters and dies

Tiny
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  • 1995 DODGE STRATUS
95 Chrysler cirrus with 180,000 miles and the 6 cylinder engine. My brother in law barrowed this car. It was running great before he took it. He was driving it over a high altitude pass when it started to cut out on him. He had it towed to a shop that told him the MAP sensor was faulty and when he was at the higher altitude it threw the air fuel mix off. He started it up and drove it around for 2 more days. He then called me stuck on the side of the freeway. When he called me, I was picking up a MAP, and I replaced it on the side of the road. Not surprising that it didn't make a differance. If you really try, you can get it to start, but it sputters, wont rev, and dies.

I am wondering if anyone knows what it may be. I am thinking timing belt, but the way it died going over the pass, and then ran fine for a few days and then died for good has me perplexed. I would think that if the belt goes out, it goes out. It may be that they are not related.

Just FYI, I have recently replaced the plugs, wires, and distributor cap.

Sort of a follow up question, I also have a 96 Dodge Stratus with about 80,000 miles. A year ago, I had the steering rack replaced on the 180,000 cirrus. If the problem I described above is major, I am just going to dump that car. However, if possible I want to swap out the racks on the 2 cars. I have 2 questions, first do you know if they would be interchangeable, the major differances being one is a 95 and one is a 96, and one is a 4 cyl. And one is a 6 cyl? The other question is how tough of a job is it? I have replaced engines, done head gaskets and just about everything else, but I have never messed with the steering.

Thanks so much.
Bobby
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Wednesday, February 7th, 2007 AT 7:59 PM

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Tiny
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Need to scan the PCM to see if it stored any codes. Hopefully it did and that will give us a place to start. As far as the rack goes, go to your local parts house and have them lokk up both cars and seee if the numbers correspond. They arent the funnest ones, bu tif you have done heavy work it shouldnt be a problem
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Thursday, February 8th, 2007 AT 7:54 AM
Tiny
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First, let me tell you that I started the car up again, and it seems to be fine again. Anyway, as far as codes, in the self diagnosis mode, it came up with #'s
12 - battery disconnect,
13 (P1297)- no change in MAP from start to run.
24 - (P0121) TPS does not agree with MAP. (P0122) TPS volt low. (P0123) TPS volt high, (P1295) No 5 volts to TPS.
66 - No CCD message from body conf. & (P1698) No CCD message from TCM.

Someone suggested that it sounds like a catalytic converter. That seems to make some sense seeing that it does it after the car has been working for a while. But I just had it replaced just over a year ago. Of course maybe there is something that is causing the cat to fail. The cruise control has always worked fine on this car, but the other day I noticed that the hard plastic vacuum line that goes to it was broken in half. I gues from my brother in law or a mechanic leaning on it or something. I fixed it, but I wonder if it could have caused a massive vacuum leak that may have led to the problems the car was having, or maybe caused a problem with the cat. Also, the rubber boot that attaches the air filter to the intake is ripped to shreds. I haven't wanted to spend the money to get a new one, so I have just tried to repair it. I wonder if this would be a huge problem as far as too much air getting in.

Thanks for any help you can offer.
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Wednesday, February 14th, 2007 AT 1:59 PM
Tiny
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Those codes are gonna require some troubleshooting. Need to verify 5 volt reference to all sensors, MAP, TPS, etc. Check all PCM grounds and powers. Could be the PCM. Doubt its the cat. Try wiggling the wiring harness while its running to see if it reacts. Triple check all plugs for clean contact and no moisture
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Wednesday, February 14th, 2007 AT 3:11 PM

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