Bad Cat or O2 sensor?

2012 DODGE GRAND CARAVAN
230,560 MILES • 3.6L • AUTOMATIC
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AMANAMAN1
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TL:DR/ - Is it possible this is just a bad downstream B1/S2 sensor or does this look more like the cat starting to go?

Background:
So, I have a 2012 Grand Caravan with the 3.6 and 230K miles. I replaced the leaking oil cooler about 10K miles ago and inadvertently let some oil get down into the rear intake ports. Next day I got a P0420 code for the right Cat, which I assumed was because of the oil. I reset the mil code and ran the van pretty hard for a few days to try to burn off any oil in the cat. Van ran fine and code never came back until now, 10K miles and four months later.

Even with the new P0420 code, the van still runs great, no misfires, fuel trims are good, and no loss of power. Live data on my scan tool shows normal B1S2 voltage at low idle but some random dips at higher idle and when driving. At normal idle, the downstream voltage is pretty steady around .72 or so.

Is the cat starting to go or could this be a bad downstream O2 sensor?

Thanks.
Brian
Jun 2, 2026 at 5:40 AM
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Hello Brian,

Thank you for the screen shots, they help, a P0420 means the PCM is seeing the catalyst on Bank 1 not storing oxygen as well as it should. The upstream sensor should switch rapidly, while the downstream sensor should stay much flatter if the converter is working well. Can I ask if the engine has an exhaust leak? This can cause this code as well. This guide may help us.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/bad-catalytic-converter-symptoms/

If every thing looks okay from the guide I would replace the catalytic converter, with 230k on it it has had its time. Please let me know what happens.
Jun 2, 2026 at 3:33 PM
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