Had to jump this vehicle since battery went dead. Cables got crossed up and it blew the fuse for the radio/display/info system and must of shorted something inside around the radio/info system since it was smoking. We took out the radio and unplugged the wires. Realized the car won't start once wires aren't plugged into back of radio. How strange.
What is the deal there?
And if the radio shorted out then can I order a new radio and plug in the wires and at least get a radio that functions? This is a very sensitive and intricate system with the Saab. Thank you : ).
That's a GM product. They selfishly decided to stop allowing us to buy radio service manuals after 1994 so they could lock up all that repair business for themselves. Instead of paying the ridiculous repair costs, a lot of people installed high-quality aftermarket replacement radios. To combat that they cleverly designed the Body Computers into the radios starting with some 2002 models. Unfortunately you are tied to the dealership for this one, and their two grossly over-priced repair centers. Imagine, ... Designing a car that won't run without the radio. Who does that benefit?
March, 19, 2013 AT 7:54 PM
Thanks so much for your answer!
Are most of the systems such as the SID, radio, etc wired and controlled through the PC board located in the radio. I'm guessing since the smoke came out around the radio area, that when crossing the jumber cables, it shorted out the PC board. It also blew out #14 20 amp fuse, although when replacing that fuse it would just blow out again, so I know it has to be a short, I'm just not sure where. If that's the case I'm thinking maybe just replacing the radio will fix the issue.
Any ideas or suggestions?
March, 19, 2013 AT 10:51 PM
All computers and radios have diodes in them that are supposed to protect them from reverse polarity. A diode is a one-way valve for electrical current. They are installed backward and do nothing under normal conditions. When the polarity is reversed, that allows current to flow through the diode just like a dead short. That causes the fuse to blow and protect the rest of the circuit.
Sometimes the high surge of current through that diode overheats it and shorts it. They may burn open causing the smoke you saw but typically they just short and cause new fuses to continue blowing. You might try to disassemble the radio and look for a two-terminal component that is burned. It will check shorted, like a piece of wire, with an ohm meter. A TV repairman can identify and measure them. The diode will be near the plugs on the back of the radio.
Keep in mind too that unlike people like me who troubleshoot down to the component level and replace just what's defective, the high-priced authorized repair centers just pop in a new circuit board. It takes less skill and less time, and they make more money that way. For that reason GM has never designed their radios to be easy to service. Most circuit boards are sealed and hard to unsolder parts from. Even taking voltage readings can be frustrating.
Diodes for this application are generic but most of the other parts that are likely to be damaged have to come from GM. They won't sell you those parts unless you supply the part number, and you can't get those without the service manual.