Wont start after engine replacement

Tiny
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I have a 2003 Taurus, replaced the engine with a 2005 block & heads. Intake manifold, plenum and wiring are from original 2003 engine. The engine cranks and has fire & fuel but wont start. I have checked spark, fuel pressure, compression, and electrical connections. Fires but doesnt start. Almost sounds like timing is premature.
Both motors are VIN S 3.0 OHV engines
Monday, June 27th, 2011 AT 10:26 PM

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Tiny
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All "crank, no start" conditions are approached in the same way. Every engine requires certain functions to be able to run. Some of these functions rely on specific components to work and some components are part of more than one function so it is important to see the whole picture to be able to conclude anything about what may have failed. Also, these functions can only be tested during the failure. Any other time and they will simply test good because the problem is not present at the moment.
If you approach this in any other way, you are merely guessing and that only serves to replace unnecessary parts and wastes money.

Every engine requires spark, fuel and compression to run. That is what we have to look for.

These are the basics that need to be tested and will give us the information required to isolate a cause.

1) Test for spark at the plug end of the wire using a spark tester. If none found, check for power supply on the possitive terminal of the coil with the key on.

2) Test for injector pulse using a small bulb called a noid light. If none found, check for power supply at one side of the injector with the key on.

3) Use a fuel pressure gauge to test for correct fuel pressure, also noticing if the pressure holds when key is shut off.

4) If all of these things check good, then you would need to do a complete compression test.

Once you have determined which of these functions has dropped out,
you will know which system is having the problem.
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Tuesday, February 28th, 2017 AT 11:50 AM
Tiny
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As I stated in the post. All of these have been checked and are within range. No trouble codes are stored either. Letting the engine sit does not improve things.
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Tuesday, February 28th, 2017 AT 11:50 AM
Tiny
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NOID light test. Passed all injectors
Spark check test. Passed using OEM spark test tool set for ignition type
Fuel Pressure test. Passed, fuel rail does not have a valve for attaching a pressure tester, measurement obtained using an engine analyzer connected to OBD port to read fuel pressure at sensor. Within normal limits. 51 PSI
All cylinders between 150 and 165 PSI on compression test.

Motor does not start. If it had a distributor I would say it was off time.
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Tuesday, February 28th, 2017 AT 11:51 AM
Tiny
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If all that were true and there was nothing wrong with the fuel, it would be running or at least backfiring to tell you it is cross firing. It has compression, fuel and spark. It has to fire so there has to be something wrong with the test results or the fuel. Try some starting fluid and see how it responds to that. In a rare situation I have seen a whacked out temperature sensor make it way too rich or way too lean to fire but the condition of the plugs would give you an indication of that.
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Tuesday, February 28th, 2017 AT 11:51 AM
Tiny
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Starting fluid did not help. Will be changing the cam and crank sensors to the ones off the old engine later to see if that makes any difference.
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Tuesday, February 28th, 2017 AT 11:51 AM

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