2003 Acura TL transmission

Tiny
PHILLIP MURRAY
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  • 2003 ACURA TL
  • 6 CYL
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 100,000 MILES
We had the transmission rebuilt(May-2013) and it cost over $3000. After we had some oil leaks repaired the transmission has sprung leaks about every other month (small leak but nevertheless a leak). Each time we took it in they said it was something else but it did not fix the leak. The first time they said it was a test plug. The second time my husband forgot to ask. The third time they said it was an o - ring. The fourth time they said it was a solenoid gasket leak. This fifth time they said it was a pressure plug. Now it is leaking again and we are taking it back tomorrow. I think those parts are inside the transmission and I know they are not taking the transmission out to replace those parts. I may be wrong but I think it is a leak around the pan because they didn't seal it properly in the first place or (my driveway is on a slant and it doesn't leak if I park it level ) it is leaking at the top where the transmission goes on to the engine. Please help me by answering because I am tired of them telling me what it was when I think I know better (I am a girl and they think I'm stupid). Anyway they are not charging us ( it went out of warranty May 30,2014) but it is not getting fixed. Please reply as soon as you can so I can be armed with some answers by telling them they are feeding us a line each time because they don't want to fix it properly. The transmission seems to shift just fine but the leak keeps coming and I am tired of taking it in. I want to be able to tell them if they are feeding us a line of bull. Are the parts I mentioned replaceable without taking the tranny out or not. I have asked what a test plug was and most people I know never heard of it. I thought the solenoid gasket was on the inside of the transmission. Please let me know by email as soon as you can. Thanks for listening ;) Anne Murray
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Sunday, July 6th, 2014 AT 4:32 PM

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Tiny
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To be honest, I'm not sure what they mean by a test plug. It could be the fill plug that they are referring to or the drain. Do you know what solenoid was replaced? Also, is the pan wet? To be honest, there is nothing at the top where it bolts to the engine that would leak.
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Sunday, July 6th, 2014 AT 5:59 PM
Tiny
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They just said it was a test plug they forgot to remove (I guess to test for pressure?). They said it was the solenoid gasket was leaking. Isn't that inside the tranny? What about the o-ring? Can that be replaced without taking out the transmission? In other words, it's leaking from the same place each time but each time they say it's something different causing it to leak. Since it only leaks when it is parked on a slant (the front facing down) I thought it might be something coming from the top running down and then dripping onto the driveway. I don't know if the pan is wet because the car sits low and I haven't crawled under there to look. I wanted to thank you for answering in a timely manner. I checked when my husband came home from work at 11:30 ( He makes Gatorade on the evening shift ) and if you can answer me back with a little more info I was thinking about making a donation for your help. Thanks again and I will check again in the morning. I do know it is transmission fluid because it is pink but it is only a small amount but I know it shouldn't leak at all, right? Again thanks ;)
Anne Murray
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Sunday, July 6th, 2014 AT 10:15 PM
Tiny
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Anne:
No, it shouldn't leak. As far as solenoids, there are a few. I have attached a picture for you to look at to see if that is where the fluid is coming from. Let me know.
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Monday, July 7th, 2014 AT 7:36 PM
Tiny
PHILLIP MURRAY
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Thank you for the picture and your answer. However, I still need to know if the parts they say they are replacing can be replaced without taking out the tranny - these are numbered according to each time we took it in. (1. Test plug, 2. My husband forgot to ask, 3. Solenoid gasket, 4. O -ring, 5. Pressure plug, and 6. It's leaking again and I am waiting to find out more so I can tell them they are feeding me a line and I will know what I'm talking about. I think they are squirting sealer on it and it springs a leak again after about a week or so. I don't go in and talk to them because I would blow up and my husband doesn't know much about cars. And of course it's the proverbial " It's probably the way my wife drives it "- the woman driver bit. I know a bit about cars but not enough about transmissions. The place we took it to be fixed is certified (C&R Transmissions, Dallas, Texas) and it was guaranteed for 12 months or 12,000 miles and the tranny seems to work fine. It's just it keeps leaking and each time they say it's something else. That doesn't seem right to me.
It is now out of warranty and they don't charge us but it seems like they would fix it right to get rid of us once and for all. We also have had to take it back four times within the 12 months and it still leaks. I spoke with the guy once and he said, " I don't make the transmissions. I just replace the parts and fix them." I didn't say what I wanted to say! Duh, it keeps leaking! Mainly, I want to know if those parts they're saying they're replacing can be replaced without taking out the transmission, because I know they are not doing that. I also would like to send you a donation if you can give me what I'm looking for. I just want to be knowledgeable before we take it back the sixth time or ask them if we can take it somewhere else and send them the bill :( This is about to drive me nuts. I know- woman driver. Thanks again and I'll be waiting to hear from you. ;)
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Wednesday, July 9th, 2014 AT 7:11 AM
Tiny
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Other than the "test plug" which I have no idea what they are referring to, yes the parts can be replaced from the outside. There are shift solenoids too in the trans, but they wouldn't cause a leak. When you take it back, tell them you want to see what is leaking before they do the work. That way, you can check if it is the same problem if it happens again.
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Wednesday, July 9th, 2014 AT 8:49 PM
Tiny
PHILLIP MURRAY
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Thank you so much for your answer ;) I would like to send you a money order (My husband is too paranoid to use our debit card to send you a donation) so if you can give me an address I can physically mail you a money order. I'll send it as soon as I receive the address from you. Thanks again but the test plug, which you said you have no idea what they are talking about, is what they said they replaced the first time, and it seems to be leaking in the same place each time. I put a piece of white plastic underneath the car and it seems to be dripping from the same place each time.(Same pattern, one puddle) - granted it is a very small puddle but, nonetheless, still leaks and you said it shouldn't leak at all. Again thanks for your help.
Anne and Phillip Murray
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Friday, July 11th, 2014 AT 8:54 AM
Tiny
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Anne and Phillip:

Thank you very much, but there is no need to send anything. I just hope I was able to help you. You seem like really nice people. I wish you were near Pittsburgh so I could help you get the leak fixed.

Let me know what you find. And again, it shouldn't leak. Today I worked on a 2007 Accord which is a cheaper version of what you have. It had 200K miles on it. The transmission, which is original, was completely dry. There is no reason you should have a leak.

Take care,
Joe
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Saturday, July 12th, 2014 AT 6:20 PM
Tiny
PHILLIP MURRAY
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Dear Joe,
Thanks again for the reply back. I really do want to send a donation and would like to come to Pittsburg because I bet ya'll could fix my Acura. We haven't taken the car back yet because my husband has been working 12 hour days making that Gatorade and we haven't had the time. I only take the Acura to the store and I have my beater truck (1985 Toyota 4x4) to haul things with. It still runs great! Of course, it was rebuilt at 143,000 and I traded my 1967 Toyota Corona for it when I came to Texas from California. The only thing we've had to do to it major ( other than maintenance) was replace the cam shaft bearing. I think she's getting tired though, because she has a slight oil leak and I don't want to put much more into her. However, when I take her in for a tune-up and oil change my mechanic might find something minor and tighten it up or replace a part and she'll be good to go for another 100,000! I'm just joking because I keep her since Phillip just bought a 2013 Nissan Frontier and he's afraid to get any scratches on it. I had to use her to haul some St. Augustine sod the other day and she's glad to do it. I'll cry if she ever dies on me. I've had her for over 15 years (Boo! Hoo!)
Again thanks for communicating back to us. Maybe someday we will visit Pittsburg and ya'll can show us the sights. Since this is Saturday I'm going to email C&R Transmissions and let them know what I found out from you and see what they have to say. Maybe it's possible they are getting bad aftermarket parts but I still don't see how all those parts could keep going bad and causing the leaks. Since we paid $3000 to have it rebuilt we should not have had to take it back 4 times before it went out of warranty and continue to have to take it back. Something seems fishy to me.
I know this is getting long but I just wanted to say thanks again and it is nice to "meet" people who are willing to go the extra mile to help for FREE!
You have taken the extra time to "listen" to and inform us. I wish you would send us an address so we could mail you a donation and, perhaps, a picture of you guys so I can see who I'm "talking" to;) In the meantime I wish you well and "Peace" (They don't have an emoticom for a peace sign - I'm an old hippie).
Wishing you the Best,
Anne and Phillip Murray
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Saturday, July 19th, 2014 AT 9:38 AM
Tiny
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Ann:

Thank you so much, but I would rather you put the money into the vehicle the next time it needs something. Lol Funny, I have an old Chevy truck that I can't part with. Here, in PA, the winters kill vehicles. Everything is rusting by the time they hit 5 years old. I've had this old truck for 26 years and even though I redid the body, the powertrain is still original and untouched. It will out last me. By the way, anytime you are in Pgh, let me know. I would love to meet you guys. I came shortly after the "hippy days." And I mean shortly after.
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Saturday, July 19th, 2014 AT 6:07 PM

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