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2001 Honda Odyssey Engine hard to start.

Tiny
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  • 2001 HONDA ODYSSEY
  • 3.5L
  • 6 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 219,000 MILES
Honda Odyssey 3.5.I have been working on this engine for over 4 weeks. Ok! The engine very hard to start finitely after a several times of trying start up but I can't touch the accelerator because it won't accelerate at all. I changed the ECT sensor, fuel pump, and still have a problems, I removed the intake to clean the EGR carbon. Was very dirty. I put everything back and still wont accelerate and hard to start! Please help!
thank you
RO
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Monday, June 2nd, 2014 AT 7:24 PM

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Tiny
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Have you checked fuel pump pressure? Is the check engine light on?
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Tuesday, June 3rd, 2014 AT 5:02 AM
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The check engine light is not light up even when I turn the key on. The fuel pump is new.
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Tuesday, June 3rd, 2014 AT 6:54 AM
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Have you confirmed the fuel pressure is within the manufacturer's specs? Are you getting a good hot blue snapping spark to the plugs?
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Tuesday, June 3rd, 2014 AT 8:35 AM
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Ok! I just confirmed that fuel pump is working ok. Pressurize 46 psi.
The spark coils are strong too. But still have a hard time to start. Some times want to start but wont catch it.
Thank you for your assisting.
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Wednesday, June 4th, 2014 AT 4:24 PM
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Okay, we are missing something simple. You mentioned that the check engine light doesn't come on when you turn the key on. You may have a bad bulb and they could be codes in the computer. Have you tried to scan it to check?

Also, have you checked to make sure something like the catalytic converter isn't plugged?
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Thursday, June 5th, 2014 AT 11:36 AM
Tiny
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My Friends, Jacobandnickolas. Finitely I found the problem! About time! Right? The problem was the catalytic converter was plugged out. What I did to tested! I removed the ox sensor and cranck to start, took a minute to start running but start right on! Wow. Now I'm taken to the muffler shop and let them changed the catalytic converter.
I want to thank you for your time and over all your wisdom for all your tips and ideas, I'm really very happy and motivated with this website to help the people. My job is a technician on Diesel only on heavy duty and medium truck. Not too much gasoline jajajajajjaja.
Again thank you very much. I stay in touch with you, because I have another vehicle with problem with pollution test, did't pass. Say the code P0302 for Ford F150 1997 4.2.
Thank you
Revilo937
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Thursday, June 5th, 2014 AT 7:34 PM
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Glad you got it fixed. I was thinking about it and that's when I mentioned the catalytic converter. Everything else was checking out good for you.

Regardless, I'm glad to help. As far as the truck, a code PO302 tells me that the number 2 cylinder has a misfire. Let me know more of the details and we'll get that one fixed too.

Take care,
Joe
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Thursday, June 5th, 2014 AT 7:45 PM
Tiny
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Joe,
How are you?
Odyssey 2001 again, My client (co-worker) say that van won't start in the mornings, only when the engine its cold, need to keep the starting until the battery is almost weak then starts, some times need to have the acelerator to the floor want to start but still take it time. When the engine is at the normal tempeture starts ok without any problem, all cylinders are working ok the van drive ok, very nice ride. Except that.
Suggestions?
Oliver
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Thursday, June 12th, 2014 AT 1:21 PM
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Oliver:

With that many miles, it could be something a serious as low compression. Tell me this. When was the vehicle last tuned up? Also, has anyone checked fuel pump pressure to make sure it isn't too low? Also, has the check engine light come on? It could even be a coolant temp sensor. However, that should have set the engine light.
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Thursday, June 12th, 2014 AT 4:26 PM
Tiny
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I tuneup, sparks, filters etc.
Fuel pressure 47 about
check engine ligth never came on. But I just also scaned and showing code P0325 knock sensor. Also codes for all cylinders are weak P0301, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06. Tomorrow I'm going to change the knock sensor and check the harnnes as well. And let you know.
I want to cry. Jajaja. I have been a hard time with this van.
Oliver
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Thursday, June 12th, 2014 AT 6:10 PM
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Trouble codes 301, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06 are all for cylinder misfires. That's every cylinder. Okay. Are there any other codes? Also, have you checked fuel pressure drop off? If you have the van there, try this. In the morning, cycle the key from off to on 3 times. When it is in the on position, count to 5 and then continue with the cycling. Basically, when you first turn the key to on, the fuel pump is to prime the system and build enough pressure to start a cold engine. However, it will only prime for less than 2 seconds. If the pressure is dropping off to 0psi due to a leak, leaking injector, bad one way valve in both the filter and fuel pump. It could make it difficult to start. Once the engine is warm and has started, the pressure may take time to drop off. Thus, it starts easily. Also, pull the vacuum hose off the pressure regulator and see if there is any gas getting into it. Finally, see if you notice any black smoke from the exhaust when it starts. I will do more research and look for TSB's regarding this issue.

Let me know what you find.
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Thursday, June 12th, 2014 AT 7:18 PM

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