Intermittent miss/surging after timing belt replacement.

Tiny
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The car ran perfect prior to replacing the timing belt, but the maintenance was way overdue, so I replaced the timing/balance shaft belts and the water pump on my 2001 accord sohc 2.3 vtec. Now sometimes when I start the car and drive the car will be sluggish and will hesitate badly then surge at about 1200 rpm, and sometimes I'll start it and it'll drive great. It idles perfectly, and I have checked and rechecked the valve timing, and the balance shaft timing. It is dead on according to the manufacturers specs. Could the problem be timing related? Has anyone had a similar issue following a timing belt replacement?
Saturday, April 14th, 2012 AT 10:11 PM

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Tiny
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It sounds like you are a tooth off on your timing. Mark the marks with paint and bring them up again. Close is not good enough, it must be perfect.

Roy
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Saturday, April 14th, 2012 AT 10:19 PM
Tiny
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Go to this link: http://www.2carpros.com/articles/engine-surges
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Saturday, April 14th, 2012 AT 10:19 PM
Tiny
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I'll describe exactly how I timed the valve train. Before I removed the old belt I send the no. 1 cyl to TDC. When it came time to put the new belt I positioned the cam gear UP arrow up and positioned the two timing hash marks exactly parallel to the plastic rear cover. I then set the crank gear mark exactly on the dot on the oil pump housing. I put the belt on then aligned the timing mark on the balance shaft with the mark on the oil pump housing. I set the oil pump timing mark to twelve o'clock. I carefully put the balance shaft belt in without disturbing the balance shaft. I then released the tensioner so I can apply tension to the belts, and rechecked the timing on the cam and crank (exact). To verify the valve timing I put the crank bolt in and removed the spark plugs. I rotated the engine through a full cycle and set it to TDC no. 1 cyl, and rechecked the valve timing. Once again exactly correct. So I put everything back together and drove it and had the symptom I described earlier.

So. I took it all apart again all the way down to the timing belt, and checked the valve timing, and low and behold it is exactly correct. One tooth in either direction would have mis-aligned the marks. At this point I cannot get the timing any more exact than it currently is.

Are there any other suggestions?
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Saturday, April 14th, 2012 AT 10:48 PM
Tiny
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You had the valve cover off and you removed the plug wires. Make sure you did not damage the wire ends causing a missfire.

Roy
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Saturday, April 14th, 2012 AT 10:53 PM
Tiny
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Thanks.
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Saturday, April 14th, 2012 AT 10:56 PM
Tiny
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Good luck
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Saturday, April 14th, 2012 AT 11:04 PM

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