Got a code P1382. Checked the #3 to #4 wires in the plug coming out of dist. 0 ohms of resistance.

KENSTEPSUREWESTNET

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That indicated to me that I needed a new CYP sensor. Can't buy the sensor, had to order a new distributor housing. Bought OEM housing from Majestic Honda via the internet. It arrived, took coil and ignitor from old housing, put in new housing. No brainer. Also replaced cap, rotor, plug wires and plugs, all new OEM parts from same Majestic Honda.

Installed new housing, and associated parts. Started car, same error code and same rough idle.

Did the same diagnostic check as before on pins 3 and 4 of the wire plug coming out of the dist. Same reading. Instead of the expected approx. 800 ohms, got a reading of 0.

Took new housing out, took cap off, checked resistance between the to connectors right at the CYP. Reading zero.

I'm stumped and wondering if the part could have been bad from Hitachi. Attempted to contact Majestic Honda, but have not yet received a reply.

I regret not checking the resistance through the CYP prior to installation, but assumed a new part would be good. I don't see what else it could be since the first test at the dist wires pretty much rules out everything but the CYP.

Any ideas?

Thanks
Ken

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KHLOW2008

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The OBD-II code P1382 for a 1998 Honda Accord refers to an issue with the Cylinder Position Sensor (CYP) Sensor. The CYP sensor monitors the position of the crankshaft and detects misfires. The code indicates that there's a problem with the sensor's signal or circuit.

Potential causes of P1382 in a 1998 Honda Accord could include:

Faulty CYP Sensor: The sensor itself might be malfunctioning, providing incorrect signals to the engine control module (ECM).

Wiring or Connection Issues: There could be a problem with the wiring or connectors related to the CYP sensor, leading to poor signal quality or intermittent connections.

ECM Issues: The Engine Control Module (ECM), also known as the Powertrain Control Module (PCM), might be having trouble processing the signal from the CYP sensor.

Timing Belt or Chain Issues: A stretched or misaligned timing belt or chain could affect the position sensor's readings, leading to this error code.

Other Sensor Issues: Sometimes, problems with other related sensors like the Crankshaft Position Sensor (CKP) can cause this code to appear.

Which type of terminals do you have? Did you measure across the correct terminals?

Not all things new are good but if it is OEM, the percentage of it being bad would be low.

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Friday, August 31st, 2012 AT 3:55 AM

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I have the pins that are pictured on the left of the diagram. I think stated that I tested across pins 3 and 4. I also stated that I took the cap of and went directly to the CYP itself. Nothing else in the picture, just the two terminals that attach to the CPY, no wire in the way that could be shorted to ground. Still the same reading, no resistance. It is exactly the same as my original bad CPY, only this housing is brand new, where the other housing had a worn shaft that allowed oil to seep inside the distributor and over time, short out the CYP. According to the same diagnostic instructions that contain the picture you sent me, if you don't have approx. 800 ohms at the terminals 3 and 4 (or even further, at the CYP itself), the search is over, the CYP is bad. You don't need to look any further. No signal is being sent from this sensor to the ECU from the CYP. Nothing besides the two wires coming from the CYP are even connected to the CYP. The igniter and the coil are in the distributor, but then don't connect or interface with the CYP There is a small narrow magnet on the distributor shaft that induces an electrical impulse in the CYP as it passes the CYP, (it is like a transformer). Then this generated signal is sent to the ECU to inform the ECU of the position of the crank when the #1 cylinder is at TDC. The ECU uses this info to adjust the timing.

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Friday, August 31st, 2012 AT 4:18 AM

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