There is a constant drain on the battery, about.

I have already done everything sugested in the youtube film clips. I am down to one fuse now and that one is the "interior lamp" 10 amp fuse. There is a module under the dash up high on the right hand side, some refer to it as the alarm module and others call it a multifunction module.
There is a relay in or on that module that I can hear and feel open and close when I remove and replace the fuse. I think the relay should open when the ignition switch is in the OFF position and the clock display should be off and the current draw should go down to 50 ma or less and it doesn't. What is keeping the relay energized and the clock display on with the ignition off.
Is the module the problem or is it something external to the module? Where is the voltage comming from that keeps the relay energized?

Thanks in advance for your help.

John

I would contribute more but I don't see a place to do that now.
Thanks
John

OK, see if anyone else is able to read my previous post and come up with anything.

I would swap the module out if I had one, but I don't.I can hear the relay click so it isn't stuck.

I will have to remove the whole dashboard to get to the module, fun, fun, fun.

Thanks
John

Thanks, I'll be patient.

John

Thanks for your reply, what you said makes sense to me.
I am a retired electronic technician and will look into the guts of the module but without a schematic it will be difficult.
All the lights, chimes etc are working as they should, only the relay is energized all the time.

The location of the unit is such that I can see it but can't reach it because it is bolted to a frame up high between the fender wall and the glove compartment. I have a factory manual but I haven't seen anything that tells me how to remove it. I suppose I'll have to get it out before I can get the part number to get the proper module? Thanks for your reply I appreciate that.

Later
John

Remove convenience center insulator?
I am not familuar with this part, is this part of the dash?

I finally got the module out. I took it apart and gave it a visual inspection, there didn't appear to be any bad componants. That small black relay in the module is the one that is turned on all the time. I found a used module on line and ordered it. I'll swap out the modules when I get it.
The chances of having the same problem with a different module are slim so if the problem stays I'll let you know, either way.

Thanks much for the help.
John

Thanks to all who helped with this Cavalier problem.
I'am not out of the woods yet but we can see what happens when the replacement module is installed. I'll be out of town for two weeks, when I get back the part should be here and I'll let you know if I did any good.

The current draw drops to about 50ma when the fuse is pulled. I sure would like to know what else besides the clock display is turned on in that ciucuit. I can't see or hear anything?

Thanks again
John

Thanks for the wiring diagram. I see the fuse I have been removing goes right to the battery input of the chip (pin D), so if there is a short in the chip who knows what is powered up. I still don't know where the clock display in the radio fits in the big picture. Or why is it on all the time now as long as the fuse is in the socket, it should only be on when the ignition is on?

Thanks again
John