After replacing the shift solenoid the transmission will not shift gears without the engine being revved at high RPMs

Tiny
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I have the vehicle listed above that we recently changed the shift solenoid but it won't shift gears it has to be revved up to high RPMs. What needs to be done? It starts and drives if it is revved up to high RPMs.
Monday, March 8th, 2021 AT 8:12 PM

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Tiny
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Good morning,

Is the check engine light on? If it is, can I have the codes? You can go to a parts store and have them checked for free.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/automatic-transmission-problems

I would change the fluid and filter. Dirty fluid will cause this issue.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-service-an-automatic-transmission

Also, the throttle position sensor controls the shifting time. It could be malfunctioning.

Roy

REMOVAL
1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.

TPS & IAC
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2. Disconnect the TPS (2) electrical connector.
3. Remove the TPS (2) mounting screws. (4) Remove the TPS (2).
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Tuesday, March 9th, 2021 AT 3:52 AM
Tiny
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The code when we hooked up the computer said P0700 that was the only engine code. The transmission fluid look good. Could it be the input/output sensors? What needs to be done after removing the TPS? How can you tell if the throttle position sensor is malfunctioning?
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Tuesday, March 9th, 2021 AT 8:12 AM
Tiny
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The 700 means there are other codes set in the transmission. You would need an advanced scan tool to read the other code.

Yes, it could be those sensors but there should be codes for them in the system. I posted pictures of the location for you below.

I would change the fluid. Just because it looks good does not mean it is good.

Roy
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Tuesday, March 9th, 2021 AT 8:24 AM
Tiny
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Okay. That was the only code that showed and we changed the solenoid.
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Tuesday, March 9th, 2021 AT 8:31 AM
Tiny
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What solenoid?

Roy
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Tuesday, March 9th, 2021 AT 9:39 AM
Tiny
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Transmission shift solenoid. That’s what popped up after the p0700 code and we changed it.
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Tuesday, March 9th, 2021 AT 9:56 AM
Tiny
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What was the code number? It may not be the solenoid at all.

Does it still not shift?

Roy
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Tuesday, March 9th, 2021 AT 10:04 AM
Tiny
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The only code was the P0700 followed by transmission shift solenoid. It won’t shift unless it’s revved up to high RPMs.
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Tuesday, March 9th, 2021 AT 11:48 AM
Tiny
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Okay, again, what was the code number? It was not the issue so I want to see if there is another resolution.

Roy
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Tuesday, March 9th, 2021 AT 11:51 AM
Tiny
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What do you mean code number? That’s the only one we saw pulling the computer up to the car.
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Tuesday, March 9th, 2021 AT 11:52 AM
Tiny
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Yes. The 700 is an information code only.

Roy
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Tuesday, March 9th, 2021 AT 12:26 PM
Tiny
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The only other thing we seen after was it said transmission shift solenoid.
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Tuesday, March 9th, 2021 AT 12:38 PM
Tiny
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Okay, I need the code number to help.

Since you replaced one of the solenoids and it did not work, the issue most likely is internal.

You will need to have someone do pressure testing on the transmission to see if there is sufficient pressure.

You will need an advanced scan tool to monitor the status of the switches and solenoids actions in the transmision.

Roy

CLUTCH VOLUMES

Theory of Operation: The volumes of the transmission fluid needed to apply the friction elements are continuously monitored and learned for adaptive controls. As the clutch friction material wears, the volume of fluid needed to apply the clutch increases. The following are typical clutch volumes, the clutches may be damaged if the volumes are greater or less than the specified below:

The LR clutch volume is updated when doing a 2-1 or 3-1 coast down shift. The transmission temperature must be between 21 - 49°C (70 - 120°F). The clutch volume should be between 35 and 83.

The 2/4 clutch volume is updated when doing a 1-2 shift. The transmission temperature must be above 43°C (110°F). The clutch volume should be between 20 and 77.

The OD clutch volume is updated when doing a 2-3 shift. The transmission temperature must be above 43°C (110°F). The clutch volume should be between 40 and 150.

The UD clutch volume is updated when doing a 4-3 or 4-2 shift. The transmission temperature must be above 43°C (110°F). The clutch volume should be between 24 and 70.

Transmission Effects: These CVIs that are out of range are usually set with other DTCs, which indicates an internal transmission problem.

Possible Causes:
Clutch pack clearance out of spec
Snap ring out of position or broken
Broken return spring
Hydraulic leak into clutch circuit with near-zero volume

SOLENOID / PRESSURE SWITCH ASSY

DESCRIPTION

Fig. 350 Solenoid/Pressure Switch Assembly
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The Solenoid/Pressure Switch Assembly (1) (Fig. 350) is external to the transaxle and mounted to the transaxle case. The assembly consists of four solenoids that control hydraulic pressure to the LR/CC, 2/4, OD, and UD friction elements. The reverse clutch is controlled by line pressure from the manual valve in the valve body The solenoids are contained within the Solenoid/Pressure Switch Assembly, and can only be serviced by replacing the assembly.
The solenoid assembly also contains pressure switches that monitor and send hydraulic circuit information to the PCM/TCM. Likewise, the pressure switches can only be service by replacing the assembly.

OPERATION

SOLENOIDS
The solenoids receive electrical power from the Transmission Control Relay through a single wire. The PCM/TCM energizes or operates the solenoids individually by grounding the return wire of the solenoid needed. When a solenoid is energized, the solenoid valve shifts, and a fluid passage is opened or closed (vented or applied), depending on its default operating state. The result is an apply or release of a frictional element.
The 2/4 and UD solenoids are normally applied, which by design allow fluid to pass through in their relaxed or off state. This allows transaxle limp-in (P, R, N, 2) in the event of an electrical failure.
The continuity of the solenoids and circuits are periodically tested. Each solenoid is turned on or off depending on its current state. An inductive spike should be detected by the PCM/TCM during this test. It no spike is detected, the circuit is tested again to verify the failure. In addition to the periodic testing, the solenoid circuits are tested if a speed ratio or pressure switch error occurs.

PRESSURE SWITCHES
The PCM/TCM relies on three pressure switches to monitor fluid pressure in the L/R, 2/4, and OD hydraulic circuits. The primary purpose of these switches is to help the PCM/TCM detect when clutch circuit hydraulic failures occur. The range for the pressure switch closing and opening points is 11-23 psi. Typically the switch opening point will be approximately one psi lower than the closing point. For example, a switch may close at 18 psi and open at 17 psi. The switches are continuously monitored by the PCM/TCM for the correct states (open or closed) in each gear as shown in the following chart:

PRESSURE SWITCH STATES
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PRESSURE SWITCH STATES

A Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) will set if the PCM/TCM senses any switch open or closed at the wrong time in a given gear.
The PCM/TCM also tests the 2/4 and OD pressure switches when they are normally off (OD and 2/4 are tested in 1st, gear, OD in 2nd gear, and 2/4 in 3rd gear). The test simply verifies that they are operational, by looking for a closed state when the corresponding element is applied. Immediately after a shift into 1st, 2nd, or 3rd gear with the engine speed above 1000 rpm, the PCM/TCM momentarily turns on element pressure to the 2/4 and/or OD clutch circuits to identify that the appropriate switch has closed. If it doesn't close, it is tested again. If the switch fails to close the second time, the appropriate Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) will set.
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Tuesday, March 9th, 2021 AT 4:25 PM
Tiny
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Having a similar issue.
I have code p0700 and p0882. I replaced the solenoid but the engine light is still on and the car is not shifting out of 1st gear. Same issue I had before replacing the solenoid.
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Wednesday, August 3rd, 2022 AT 10:47 AM
Tiny
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It sounds like the PCM is not working correctly P0700, here is the location for the PCM and how to replace it, I have seen water damage to the electrical connector so start there and look for corrosion. Also, we should do a CAN scan because this car has a TIPM which can go out as well. A CAN scan is easy to do. You can get a CAN scanner from Amazon for about $30.00.

Here is a video to show you how:

https://youtu.be/u-4syLc-ifQ

Here is a scanner link:

https://amzn.to/3o41KcZ

Check out the diagrams (below). Please let us know what happens.
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Thursday, August 4th, 2022 AT 6:05 PM

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