Code P0151

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VG33E QX4 (also Nissan Pathfinder). I am looking for help trying to decide if the Bank 2 Sensor 1 Oxygen Sensor should be replaced, or if the code could be caused by something else?

Symptoms are; poor fuel economy (13mpg/Hwy), and a strange "cold weather/hard start" problem that gets worse as the outside temperature drops.

I've read that these VG33E 3.3L V6 engines often have a grounding or electrical connection problem with the Oxygen Sensors.

Also, possibly could be incorrect fuel pressure, bad fuel injectors, intake air or exhaust gas leak, or even Cam/Crank Sensor problem?

I have some OBDII Live Data/Freeze Frame readings other than the P0151 code which seem to me to be wrong, but not sure - I'm definitely not a mechanic:
Spark Advance Degrees: 63.5
SHRTFT2: .8
LONGFT2: -3.1

Should I just have that O2 Sensor replaced and see what happens?

Thanks in advance for any ideas or suggestions!
Wednesday, October 14th, 2020 AT 10:38 AM

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The easiest way to determine if this is one o2 sensor is to just swap it to the other side and see if the short term fuel trims switch banks. So compare it to the other side and then see if they change. However, with your short term and long term being where they are, that doesn't appear to be an issue. The numbers are where they are supposed to be so unless the is an issue like what you are describing the sensor would appear to be fine.

With that being said, we need to step back and see what the fuel pressure is when you say it is low. Did you check it and if so, what is the PSI at key on and then while idling?

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/repair-lean-mixture-codes-p0171-or-p0174-on-some-manufacturers

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-fuel-system-pressure-and-regulator

Check out the diagrams (Below). Please let us know what you find. We are interested to see what it is.
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Wednesday, October 14th, 2020 AT 3:48 PM
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Thank you for the fast reply, much appreciated! I will study the info and articles you provided and get back to you as soon as I can.
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Wednesday, October 14th, 2020 AT 4:56 PM
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You are welcome. However, I missed the fact that you said you had a code. What was the actual code? I will send you the testing that we need to run through. I thought you were just thinking there was an issue with it. If you have a code then we can run through the testing and that will tell us what the issue before you replace a sensor.
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Wednesday, October 14th, 2020 AT 7:10 PM
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The code is P0151. I've been reading up on it, and with the (certain years V6) VG33E Nissan/Infinity engines, there is a Technical Service Bulletin issued because of a lot of grounding issues with the O2 sensors. I can post that Service Bulletin (and all the years/vehicles) it pertains to if you'd like, but I found a much easier (and much cheaper) alternative solution on YouTube. Can I post YouTube videos on this site?
This grounding problem should be checked and/or completed prior to replacing any O2 sensors, from what I understand.
Thanks again.
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Thursday, October 15th, 2020 AT 5:19 AM
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You can absolutely post any information that you find if you think it will help others. Not only are we here to help you but you are helping others when you solve an issue because they will visit the site and see what you did.

Thanks for the update. I checked TSB's and did not find one specific for this code and your vehicle so if you found one then that would be great. As for the link, just paste the link in your test and it will create the hyperlink when you post it.
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Thursday, October 15th, 2020 AT 7:28 PM
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Yes sir, this is a fantastic website! I came here once before and couldn't believe how much help I received. Steve W worked extremely hard on a very tough issue, figured it out and saved me a huge amount of time. And money! I "spread the word" about 2CarPros whenever I can. Online and with my friends.
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Friday, October 16th, 2020 AT 5:08 AM
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Awesome! Steve is really good. He reminds me of a lot of things all the time that I seem to have forgotten or just didn't know. Thanks for spreading the word, we appreciate it. Talk to you next time.
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Friday, October 16th, 2020 AT 6:52 PM
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KaseKenny, I tried to reply 3 times to this post, but when I hit the Reply button, my text just disappeared. I tried contacting Admin, but haven't heard back yet (weekend). I copy/pasted some text into the reply box, could that be the problem? Thanks.
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Saturday, October 17th, 2020 AT 4:21 AM
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I am not sure but if it appeared as text it should post it but I know we have had some issues with other things being copied and pasted into the box like links. I will pass this post onto the team and ask they contact you to try and assist. Thanks for the heads up.
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Saturday, October 17th, 2020 AT 6:27 PM
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KASEKENNY1: I wrote the following up based on my take on this O2 Sensor Grounding Issue. This is what I'm going to do before spending a lot more to have O2 Sensors installed. I have a 2000 Infinity QX4, but this also applies to certain Nissan vehicles also. If you approve and would like, we can put this in the Nissan section or wherever, there's LOTS more Nissan's affected by this than Infinity's. Please let me know if you want to make any changes, it’s correct to the best of my knowledge. I'll let you know my results after I install the DIY REPAIR. Thanks, hope this helps someone else.

OXYGEN SENSOR OBDII CODES AND PROBLEMS THAT ARE OFTEN RELATED TO A FAULTY 02 SENSOR GROUND WIRE
***Applies to Certain NISSAN and INFINITY models with V6 engines.
***This is a VERY common problem.
***There is an EASY FIX!

***Nissan (also makes Infinity) recommends you solve this potential Grounding Issue BEFORE installing new expensive Oxygen (O2) Sensors. If your problem IS the Grounding Issue, the O2 Sensors MAY not be required at all. If the problem is NOT the Ground, you won’t be out much money, especially if you opt for the Do It Yourself (DIY) Repair (BELOW). Fixing this now may also eliminate future grounding problems if your vehicle is on the Nissan list, or is a particular 1996-2004 Infinity SUV with the V6 engine.

VEHICLES AFFECTED:
***NOTE: This information also pertains to INFINITY vehicles of the same year models with V6 (VG33E) engines. Infinity is made by Nissan, and has virtually the same engine, body, etc., but has several luxury upgrades. For example, my 2000 Infinity QX4 is basically the same vehicle as the 2000 Nissan Pathfinder, same engine, etc.

SPECIFIC VEHICLES AFFECTED BY THE GROUNDING PROBLEM:
1996-2000 Pathfinder (R50)
1999-2004 Frontier (V-6 Engine ONLY)
2000-2004 Xterra (V-6 Engine ONLY)
ALSO Infinity SUV’s (Like the QX4) Vehicles 1996-2004 with the V-6 (VG33E) Engine ONLY)
***I’m NOT certain if this fix applies to CARS with the V-6 engine, or if it only applies to the SUV’s.

SPECIFIC OBDII CODES LIST:
***Nissan’s NSB99-004B Service Bulletin (Link Below) lists the individual vehicle Models and Model Year and the Specific OBDII Codes that pertain to each vehicle (Also pertains to similar Infinity models), and there are MANY CODES that may apply. IF you have an O2 Sensor Code, GO TO THE NSB99-004B link (below), find your vehicle and see if YOUR Code applies.

***THE REPAIR OPTIONS:
1. You MAY do a Voltage Drop Test that requires a Volt/Amp Meter and specific instructions to verify if the Ground is actually the problem (Details and Instructions are in the NSB99-004B Link below). OR, A BETTER OPTION (In My Opinion)...
2. Just go ahead and REPLACE the Ground Wire to eliminate it as the cause.
***You have TWO choices to fix the ground:
A.) Buy Nissan’s “sub-harness” ($100 plus) and install it. OR...
B.) Simpler, Easier and Less Expensive: Use the DIY REPAIR: Make your own “sub-harness”, which is basically a ground wire, for $10 or less and install it, which is simple.

THE DIY EASY FIX - INCLUDING A SHORT VIDEO (LINK BELOW):
The DIY fix involves running a New Ground Wire from the Existing Ground Bolt on the Intake Manifold to the NEGATIVE Battery Post. The YouTube Video will show the location of the existing Ground Bolt, and how to route the New Ground Wire to the NEGATIVE Battery Post. It’s possible that your specific route to the battery will be different.
What you need for this fix:
About 3 Feet of 12 or even 10 Gauge wire, Stranded wire is more flexible, so probably better.
TWO “Eyelets”, one size to fit the Ground Bolt, and possibly a different size to fit your NEGATIVE Battery Post connection.
TIPS:
BE CERTAIN you attach the New Ground Wire to the NEGATIVE Battery Post connection!

It is recommended that you SOLDER the eyelets to the New Ground Wire and cover the connections with Heat Shrink Tube.

Be SURE to keep your new Ground Wire away from the exhaust manifold when you route it to the NEGATIVE Battery Post.

CLEAN your connection points at the Intake Manifold and Battery Post connection.

When you install the new Ground Wire, fasten it to existing wires with “cable ties” at a few points to keep it from moving or hanging loose.

LINK to YOUTUBE VIDEO: Search YouTube for:
Nissan truck o2 sensor code FIX! *CHEAP*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaRHqGK8nVY

LINK to NISSAN’S NSB99-004B SERVICE BULLETIN: This includes a Specific List Of OBDII Codes and which vehicles it pertains to. It does NOT list specific Infinity-affected vehicles. This NSB also includes detailed instructions on how to do the Voltage Drop Test and the Repair with instructions, parts and diagrams.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ow5w8gy6ckdmqdjQ94KtfVR-blgiIiKfuiGb4OHRQ_k/edit

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Sunday, October 18th, 2020 AT 3:28 PM
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KaseKenny: Admin (Ken) emailed me and said you can't have any "slash" symbols in posts, so I couldn't post links to Youtube or Nissan. I made a work-around using * instead of slash, with directions. I'll retry it soon.
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Sunday, October 18th, 2020 AT 4:02 PM
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KASEKENNY1: I wrote the following up based on my take on this O2 Sensor Grounding Issue. This is what I'm going to do before spending a lot more to have O2 Sensors installed. I have a 2000 Infinity QX4, but this also applies to certain Nissan vehicles also. If you approve and would like, we can put this in the Nissan section or wherever, there's lots more Nissan's affected by this than Infinity's. Please let me know if you want to make any changes, it’s correct to the best of my knowledge. I'll let you know my results after I install the DIY repair. Thanks, hope this helps someone else.

OXYGEN SENSOR OBDII CODES AND PROBLEMS THAT ARE OFTEN RELATED TO A FAULTY 02 SENSOR GROUND WIRE
***Applies to Certain NISSAN and INFINITY models with V6 engines.
***This is a VERY common problem.
***There is an EASY FIX!

***Nissan (also makes Infinity) recommends you solve this potential Grounding Issue BEFORE installing new expensive Oxygen (O2) Sensors. If your problem IS the Grounding Issue, the O2 Sensors MAY not be required at all. If the problem is NOT the Ground, you won’t be out much money, especially if you opt for the Do It Yourself (DIY) Repair (BELOW). Fixing this now may also eliminate future grounding problems if your vehicle is on the Nissan list, or is a particular 1996-2004 Infinity SUV with the V6 engine.

VEHICLES AFFECTED:
***NOTE: This information also pertains to INFINITY vehicles of the same year models with V6 (VG33E) engines. Infinity is made by Nissan, and has virtually the same engine, body, etc., but has several luxury upgrades. For example, my 2000 Infinity QX4 is basically the same vehicle as the 2000 Nissan Pathfinder, same engine, etc.

SPECIFIC VEHICLES AFFECTED BY THE GROUNDING PROBLEM:
1996-2000 Pathfinder (R50)
1999-2004 Frontier (V-6 Engine ONLY)
2000-2004 Xterra (V-6 Engine ONLY)
ALSO Infinity SUV’s (Like the QX4) Vehicles 1996-2004 with the V-6 (VG33E) Engine ONLY)
***I’m NOT certain if this fix applies to CARS with the V-6 engine, or if it only applies to the SUV’s.

SPECIFIC OBDII CODES LIST:
***Nissan’s NSB99-004B Service Bulletin (Link Below) lists the individual vehicle Models and Model Year and the Specific OBDII Codes that pertain to each vehicle (Also pertains to similar Infinity models), and there are MANY CODES that may apply. IF you have an O2 Sensor Code, GO TO THE NSB99-004B link (below), find your vehicle and see if YOUR Code applies.

***THE REPAIR OPTIONS:
1. You MAY do a Voltage Drop Test that requires a Volt/Amp Meter and specific instructions to verify if the Ground is actually the problem (Details and Instructions are in the NSB99-004B Link below). OR, A BETTER OPTION (In My Opinion)...
2. Just go ahead and REPLACE the Ground Wire to eliminate it as the cause.
***You have TWO choices to fix the ground:
A.) Buy Nissan’s “sub-harness” ($100 plus) and install it. OR...
B.) Simpler, Easier and Less Expensive: Use the DIY REPAIR: Make your own “sub-harness”, which is basically a ground wire, for $10 or less and install it, which is simple.

THE DIY EASY FIX - INCLUDING A SHORT VIDEO (LINK BELOW):
The DIY fix involves running a New Ground Wire from the Existing Ground Bolt on the Intake Manifold to the NEGATIVE Battery Post. The YouTube Video will show the location of the existing Ground Bolt, and how to route the New Ground Wire to the NEGATIVE Battery Post. It’s possible that your specific route to the battery will be different.
What you need for this fix:
About 3 Feet of 12 or even 10 Gauge wire, Stranded wire is more flexible, so probably better.
TWO “Eyelets”, one size to fit the Ground Bolt, and possibly a different size to fit your NEGATIVE Battery Post connection.
TIPS:
BE CERTAIN you attach the New Ground Wire to the NEGATIVE Battery Post connection!

It is recommended that you SOLDER the eyelets to the New Ground Wire and cover the connections with Heat Shrink Tube.

Be SURE to keep your new Ground Wire away from the exhaust manifold when you route it to the NEGATIVE Battery Post.

CLEAN your connection points at the Intake Manifold and Battery Post connection.

When you install the new Ground Wire, fasten it to existing wires with “cable ties” at a few points to keep it from moving or hanging loose.

LINK to YOUTUBE VIDEO: Search YouTube for:
Nissan truck o2 sensor code FIX! *CHEAP*
OR;
COPY AND PASTE This Link into your browser then CHANGE EACH * TO A SLASH SYMBOL, and hit Enter
(NO spaces).
https:**www.youtube.com*watch?v=yaRHqGK8nVY

LINK to NISSAN’S NSB99-004B SERVICE BULLETIN: This includes a Specific List Of OBDII Codes and which vehicles it pertains to. It does NOT list specific Infinity-affected vehicles. This NSB also includes detailed instructions on how to do the Voltage Drop Test and the Repair with instructions, parts and diagrams.
NOTE: COPY AND PASTE This Link into your browser then CHANGE EACH * TO A SLASH SYMBOL, and hit Enter
(NO spaces).
https:**docs.google.com*document*d*1ow5w8gy6ckdmqdjQ94KtfVR-blgiIiKfuiGb4OHRQ_k*edit

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Sunday, October 18th, 2020 AT 4:39 PM
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Wow. That is all good info. We can link some of those other vehicles to it so that when others search for it this will come up. Thanks again for all that work. Please let us know how it turns out.
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Monday, October 19th, 2020 AT 4:45 PM
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Will do, and thank you!
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Monday, October 19th, 2020 AT 4:49 PM
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Thanks. We will wait to hear back.
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Tuesday, October 20th, 2020 AT 8:17 PM
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Kenny: Success! The new DIY ground cable did the trick. The P0151 code cleared immediately, I didn't even have to clear it with the code reader. I have now cleared the old data (Codes, Live Data and Freeze Frame Data). I will drive it a while and recheck codes, mileage etc, to see if the issues are totally cleared up. I do suspect something else might be going on as I had some weird (to me) numbers on the OBDII reader. I'll post back in a couple of days and elaborate. Many thanks for sticking with me while sorting this out.
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Thursday, October 29th, 2020 AT 10:49 AM
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Awesome. Thank you for sticking with us. This post will be very valuable to others that visit the site with this issue over the next many years. Thanks for keeping us updated and following through to a solution.
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Thursday, October 29th, 2020 AT 6:35 PM
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Hi Kenny, my apologies for taking so long to reply.

Well it's for sure. The vehicle has been through 2 tanks of gas and no return of the P0151. The simple DIY ground cable repair completely eliminated the P0151 malfunction code! I could have guessed wrong and paid money to have the Oxygen Sensor in question replaced when it wasn't even bad. However, the same bad symptoms are still there (poor fuel economy and a very strange "hard to start but only when it's cold" issue), and I have a new malfunction code; P0440 EVAP System. I hope you can stick with me on this one, it sure looks complicated!

But, before getting into the P0440 code, do you still want me to rewrite and shorten this thread? I can list all the codes and which vehicles it pertains to, as well as a "how to" on the ground cable repair. I wouldn't know how to post for a repair that covers multiple vehicles and many codes though. Can you review and post it for me, or tell me how to go about it? Also, should I start a new thread for the P0440, and if so, can you help me through it? Thanks for your help and patience.
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Friday, November 13th, 2020 AT 4:43 PM
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We need to get a new post started for the new code simply because this one is titled with a the P0151 so those that have the P0440 and need help won't find the solution when we reach it.

https://www.2carpros.com/questions/new

As for the updates on what has happened on this repair, I think it is pretty clear what you did with the ground but if you want to add more detail about what you did, go for it. Just post it here and when we merge posts, it will get posted to all that apply.

I will keep an eye out for the new post and either I or one of the other guys will get on it. Thanks
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Friday, November 13th, 2020 AT 5:26 PM
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Will do. I'll try to sort out my questions and get that P0440 thread posted ASAP. Many thanks.
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