Truck will not stay running - stall at idle?

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Raise the idle thru a air valve screw or the throttle screw if it has one and see what happens.
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Thursday, August 20th, 2020 AT 11:12 AM (Merged)
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Alright, the idle adjustment didn't change the problem same clunking at idle, I set the butterfly slightly open with the screw and did a voltage check on the TPS. No dice. I'm going to take the IAC off and check for movement, after that I can only assume EGR or bad injectors.

One strange thing it does is, when the gas is touched the RPMs jump about a 1k and stay there for a few before it drops back down to a death chug.

No codes until the engine dies.
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Thursday, August 20th, 2020 AT 11:12 AM (Merged)
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  • 1991 FORD RANGER
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1991 Ford Ranger 2.9; stick, 105,000 mi. The clutch safety switch broke. I had to move the truck out of the driveway. I used a wire to bypass the switch. I bought and installed a new switch. Now truck starts but won't idle and check engine light is on. I have to pump the gas pedal to keep it running. I know I screwed something up when I bypassed the switch.
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Thursday, August 20th, 2020 AT 11:12 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Check engine light on

Have the computer scanned for code/s-you have a problem within the engine management system that caused the CEL to turn on-This is your starting point of diagnosis, finding out what's going on.
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Thursday, August 20th, 2020 AT 11:12 AM (Merged)
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I know that much. Since I don't have a codes reader I was looking for something more specific.
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Thursday, August 20th, 2020 AT 11:12 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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The clutch switch it simple but the won't idle can be a problem to fix-pull the code/s from the computer-your starting point

You can try cleaning out the idle air control and EGR valve
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Thursday, August 20th, 2020 AT 11:12 AM (Merged)
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  • 1991 FORD RANGER
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Problem started over a year ago. 3.0 L Engine idles extremely rough, or not at all, when started cold. The problem disappears after approx 60 secs. Then starts fine the rest of the day. I've found I can shorten the duration of the problem if I start and immediately force the rpms to 1500 or greater for about 15 secs. Last time I checked (6 mos ago), there were no computer codes. I've replaced the IAC, fuel pump and filter, cleaned the MAF sensor. Symptoms are very much like the Ford 4.0 L problem which requires a timing belt tensioner and new lower intake manifold O-rings/gaskets. I put in a short block in 2004, around 125,000 miles; this problem did not begin until late 2007.

Thanks

Chip Wiggs
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Thursday, August 20th, 2020 AT 11:12 AM (Merged)
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Check for carbon under the EGR, clean all the way to the throttl, check ECT(engine coolant temp)sensor.
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Thursday, August 20th, 2020 AT 11:12 AM (Merged)
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Hi
Ohm check the ACT rear of IAC then check ECT top right front near throttle body. AT 86 Deg. Both should ohm at 24,200 ohms.
Let me know
Thanks for donate
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Thursday, August 20th, 2020 AT 11:12 AM (Merged)
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I checked the resistance on the ECT (7.6k ohms) and ACT (10.9k ohms). Truck had been at operating temp for a hour and then turned off for an hour. Ambient temp was around 84 deg during check. One of the latches on the ECT connector was broken off. My plan is to replace the ACT, ECT and ECT connector, and then clean the carbon from the intake as far as possible past the throttle plate as reasonable. It will not be until the tomorrow morning until I know if the problem is corrected.

Thanks to both Docfixit and merlin2021 for your replies. I will update when I know more.

Chip Wiggs
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Thursday, August 20th, 2020 AT 11:12 AM (Merged)
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I'll check back.
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Thursday, August 20th, 2020 AT 11:12 AM (Merged)
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Replacing the ECT corrected my problem, the ECT connector was slightly damaged and may have contributed to the problem by not having a reliable electrical connection. I replaced the ECT connector also. I replaced the ACT sensor this morning simply because it has 155k plus miles on it.

Thanks for the help!

Chip Wiggs
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Thursday, August 20th, 2020 AT 11:12 AM (Merged)
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Great news Thanks for letting me know you got it running. Use us again, tell a friend
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Thursday, August 20th, 2020 AT 11:12 AM (Merged)
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Good work, thanks for the assist Doc!
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