The problem is that one day the low beam lights came on by themselves and will not go out?

I believe I have checked the hi beams and they worked, but I will have to check again.

I have not actually checked the day time running light unit per se. All I know is the switch you can turn on to have the lights go off automatically seems to work properly ( not real sure what the switch actually does, because I never use it).

You are correct about talking about two things.

I will check things out as you suggest either this afternoon or tomorrow and let you know.

Thanks

I've have tried all I can to get the graphics readable and just can't. When you save and enlarge, they just get blurry. Is there any other way they can be sent.

Thanks

Sir,

I have made a bit of progress. I can now tell you that I believe the real problem is the Day Time Running lights are staying on, not the low beams. How do I know? When testing the autolamp, which worked as advertised, the healights that were already on, brightened a bit. When I went to high beam, they brightened some more. When the auto lamp timed out, the parking lights went out and the headlamps lost a bit of brightness, leading me to conclude that what is really staying on is the day time running lights.

Also, I don't really know what PID means when you referred to the autolamp (Position indicator Display?). I did not see any light on the dash other that the normal lights come on. But, I believe the autolamp is working as it should.

By the way, I have not donated yet, so I appreciate your time greatly. I did this once with another "help on line" and was not satisfied with the results at all, so that is why I am trying this free for right now. Again much thanks.

I hope you can continue to help me track this down.

Thanks. I will not be able to test this until Monday. Will make sure and get with you as soon as I find out something.

I do have one question. I have a hard time locating all the relays. I do have Chiltons on line and am looking for K370 DRL relay 1 now.

I am a bit shy of repair shops now. I just had to pay $914.00 for a fuel pump in a 1996 Chevy S-10 (I wish I knew how to diagnose that one). They told me I needed new rear U joint as well. I installed both rear and front myself instead of paying them another arm and leg. All it cost was the cost of the u joints, a few hours ( I needed to buy a 12 ton Hyd Jack at Harbor Freight to break loose 12 year old u joints from the drive shaft. Small price to pay, especially I have wanted an hydrauic jack for some years.)

Thanks for the Relay location diagram. I did find it in Chiltons too, but I used yours.

I did do step 1, removing DRL relay 1. Lights stayed on.

By the way, I know in the past I have set the parking brake and the DRL stayed on then too.

Since in check 1 it says I now need to repair the circuit. Is that true. Is that something I can do?

I have removed all three. Lights stay on. Strange isn't it. There should be no way for these to be on that I can see.

As I first mentioned, They just came on by themselves one morning. My wife went out to take care of the dogs, and the lights were off. My son went out about 20 minutes later and they were on, and won't go off.

Also, I can remove either fuze 46 or 47 and the right light goes out. I can remove either or both and the left light stays on.

I have removed fuze 14 in the past, and the lights stay on.

Lights stayed on after fuse 30 removed.

The Left DRL has 12 volts going to it regardless of what I disconnect. I either have to remove the left bulb or disconnect the battery to get it to go off. The right has 12 volts going to it at all times except when I remove fuse 46 or 47. Removing either of those causes the right light to go out. Question? Why would a fuse (46) that is supposed to be for the left light affect the right one, while nothing at all affects the left. Without knowing much, I would suspect a short somewhere in that area.

Well, I have to stop for tonight. It is about 10:00PM and around 25degrees outside. Getting very difficult.

No, I would say I am fairly inexperienced with electrical. Oh sure, I can do some house wiring, but getting around a car is difficult. Hard to even locate things. I do believe I located the DRL lamps resistor. Again kind of dark and cold right now. What kind of tool do I need to disconnect that thing, a small screwdriver? I tend to break plastic things.

Question - Is it possible for me to take a picture and annotate what I think I am looking at and have you confirm it?

Thanks - be with you Monday.

Good morning.

So far this morning I have disconnected C196. At least I believe it was C196 (YE/BK and OG/LG wires). Lights stayed on. I then removed all the fuses (7, 30, 14)(one at a time then all at once) and lights remained on. I then removed Relays again. Lights stayed on.

Is it time to throw in the towel? I know if I have to take it to the dealer I will probably be looking at $800 -$1000, since that what it seems it takes to get anything analyzed and fixed these days.

I sure hope you can help, but will understand if we need to stop. I have today and Tuesday I can spend time on it then I am back on shift until next Tuesday.