Dashboard four wheel drive switch

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Ok first you should buy a newer book or check out you local library and check one out. I see you have a multi meter so do you have a scan too and a test light too? Let me know and we will start checking out things one at time ok.
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Monday, January 2nd, 2017 AT 11:05 AM (Merged)
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I have a test light but am not familiar with a scan, I used to be a heavy truck and equipment mechanic before everything became computerized. I havent got a book yet, I am told the control module is under the drivers seat? Would the relays be located there also? As I said there doesnt seem to be any power in the cable from the module to the motor. The buttons and lights to engage the system worked fine until I unbolted the transfer case motor, coincedence? Thought I may have blown something having wife turn ignition on and engage with motor unbolted. ( Grounded)
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Monday, January 2nd, 2017 AT 11:05 AM (Merged)
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Ok first thing never do that again ok. There is a magnetic clutch and speed sensor near the motor that may have been damaged by doing this. Now we will do some tests to make sure what is and isn't wrong. Ok.
First I need you to unplug the 5 pin and 8 pin connector from the electronic control module for the 4x4 now turn key to run engine off. Let me know if the indicator light for the 4x4 is flashing or on steady. If it is on steady then the module is bad and needs to be replaced. Get back to me with what you find and we will go from there. The module is located in the car in the back above the left (drive side) rear wheel well should be close to the jack in that compartment.
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Monday, January 2nd, 2017 AT 11:05 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Bearing in mind that the lights worked until I un bolted the original motor, then I had no lights. I unplugged the 5 and 8 pin connectors, turned the key to run position, no lights at all, I checked the #7 and 20 amp electric shift fuses with multimeter again, both good.
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Monday, January 2nd, 2017 AT 11:05 AM (Merged)
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Well I guess I should uplug the in put cable to control module and see if I have power to the control module since the fuses are good?
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Monday, January 2nd, 2017 AT 11:05 AM (Merged)
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Ok with the test that you did it says that the 4x4 module is bad and needs to be replaced. The 4x4 lights should have flashed 4 times. So if you like do the test again and if there is no lights at all then according to that the module is bad. If that is true I would check a wrecking or salvage yard to buy one. Let me know how it goes.
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Monday, January 2nd, 2017 AT 11:05 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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I removed the input cable for the control module and have power there, there is a red light at bottom of module with a white tab (button) if u push the button the red light flashes off and on, depress button again it stops.
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Monday, January 2nd, 2017 AT 11:05 AM (Merged)
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I called the salvage yard $65.00 for a used one, goin to pick it up, thx for all your help, will let u know how it turns out.
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Monday, January 2nd, 2017 AT 11:05 AM (Merged)
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Great hope it does the trick as the tests say's it should. Let me know. Thanks and have a great day.
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Monday, January 2nd, 2017 AT 11:05 AM (Merged)
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I went to the salvage yard and purchased a used module and installed it, The light on the button comes on very dim if u hold the button in and I hear a faint clicking noise back by the module while pressing button. Still no four wheel drive.
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Monday, January 2nd, 2017 AT 11:05 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Ok this is good though you didn't waste money here you have fixed the module problem now we need to test to see what else went bad here. Now we need to test the t-case motor ok. Now at the t-case motor you will back probe the wire harness with a digital multi meter. The yellow/white wire should have power. When you select 2h or 4h or 4l the orange wire should have power and so should the yellow wire as you go back. Here is the wiring diagram for the t-case motor. Let me know what you find ok.


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/249564_Graphic_22.jpg

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Monday, January 2nd, 2017 AT 11:05 AM (Merged)
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Electrical problem
2001 Ford Explorer 6 cyl Four Wheel Drive Automatic 125000 miles

What is the most likely cause of the 4wd not engaging. Was working 2 days ago and now suddenly when I turn the switch no engagement, no lights, nothing. My truck is the Sport model with electronic 4wd switching.
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Monday, January 2nd, 2017 AT 11:07 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Chances are the actuator on the transfer case is bad. To check it, you need to see if it is getting power when you switch to 4wd. If it is, then cances are it is bad.

Check for power to it and let me know what you find.

Joe
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Monday, January 2nd, 2017 AT 11:07 AM (Merged)
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Transmission problem
2002 Ford Explorer 6 cyl Four Wheel Drive Automatic 102000 miles

Had new frt. Shocks upper & lower ball joints tie rods and the CV axel replaced on drivers side and the same on passenger eccept cv axil, but had to replace wheel bearing on passenger side. It snowed and now the 4x4 switch don't engage the 4x4 no lights on dash for4x4 either, what could be wrong?
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Monday, January 2nd, 2017 AT 11:07 AM (Merged)
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I need you to check something. On the transfercase is the 4wd actuator. It will have a wiring harness going to it. Remove the harness and have a helper switch the controler to see if you get power to it. If you do, remove the actuator and have it tested. On these vehicles, the actuator has a history.

Let me know what you find. Also, since they worked on the front end, make sure nothing is disconnected.

Let me know what you find or if you have other questions.

Joe
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Monday, January 2nd, 2017 AT 11:07 AM (Merged)
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GORDON SHEPHERD2
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Hi everyone I have or had a similar experience with my 4 wheel drive I got a 2002 XLT 4.0 with 180,000 miles for 600.00 steal right but it ran didn't knock, smoke, over heat so I threw cash and ran lol, u went to a little field to try 4x4 well wa WA WA I also noticed service engine soon light. Yesterday was actually on my way to AutoZone when I had I'm better than them moment, stopped at a Walmart parking lot pulled the glove box tapped on the 4x4 control module then made sure wiring harness was snugg. Turned truck off and back on herd the module clicking service engine light is now off and all push button control working for the 4x4 only issue I have is no indication from low or high but I'm sorta old school anyway I always stop or at least put in neutral before engaging 4x4. Hopefully this helps someone out there who doesn't have 400$ to replace that module
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Friday, January 6th, 2017 AT 11:48 PM
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Hey GORDON,

That is a great addition to the thread! Nice work this will help the many that search it.

Please use 2CarPros anytime, we are here to help and tell a friend.

Best, Ken
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Tuesday, January 10th, 2017 AT 11:42 AM
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I cannot get the SUV to shift to just two wheel drive even after overhauling the selector motor on the transfer case.
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Tuesday, September 4th, 2018 AT 6:26 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Are you getting power to the actuator?
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Tuesday, September 4th, 2018 AT 6:26 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Yes there is power to the motor because I can select 4whl LOW. It shifts between 4 whl LOW and HIGH with no problem.
I thought that the neutral position on the selector shaft on the Transfercase would allow 2 wheel drive but it wont go forward or reverse in that neutral position.
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Tuesday, September 4th, 2018 AT 6:26 PM (Merged)

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