1996 Chrysler Cirrus crank but no start

Unplug the cam sensor, if it starts, timing chain may need to be replaced...

were is cam sensor located? 1996 chrys. cirrus 2.5 eng. also i checked green w/ orange tracer to distibutor, ign. on test llight on 2 sec., crank eng. test light pulses. checked injector supply and injector pulse is good. all 6 pin conn. wires has voltage, 4.9 to 8.0 volts. checked distributor rotor rotation is good. checked grd. to ign. driver circuit get pusating voltage. is there a way to check ign. coil and ignition modual.

Cam sensor is integral with the distributor, also I sent a tech bulliten on your distributor and engine, no ignition mod, PCM controls ignition.

checked btwn. ign. driver circuit and grd. w/ test light at 6 pin conn. crank eng. get pusating test light. I have good compression. timing belt ok. is there a way to check coil and and pcm. whats next step? why is it taking so long for you to answer.

Did you go on vacation?

Did you check the info I emailed to you yet? What was the build date of your distributor? I do not do this for a living, and do have other commitments, I do not stay online all day! Sorry for the delays!

i do not have a hessitation on acceleration. i have a cranks no start condition. i found the imformation i needed at the auto parts, they let me look at one of there manuals. i checked resistance across 2 pin conn. at distributor got 1.1k ohms should be .6 ohms - .8 ohms. and 2 pin conn. each of the terminals at once to the coil tower and got 5k ohms. on each, should be 12k ohms - 18k ohms. checked distributor cap got 6k ohms should be 5k ohms. so im assuming coil is bad.

TEST NS-1A - QUALIFYING A NO START CONDITION 1. Attempt to crank engine. If engine was able to crank, go to next step. If engine was not able to crank, go to TEST NS-9A. 2. Turn ignition off, then on again. DO NOT crank engine. Using scan tool, select NO START monitor. Read current Camshaft Position (CMP) state and Crankshaft Position (CKP) state. If scan tool displays CURRENT CMP STATE PRESENT, replace CMP sensor (no signal should have been generated). Perform TEST VER-1A. If scan tool does not display CURRENT CMP STATE PRESENT, go to next step. 3. If scan tool displays CURRENT CKP STATE PRESENT, replace CKP sensor (no signal should have been generated). Perform TEST VER-1A. If scan tool does not display CURRENT CKP STATE PRESENT, go to next step. 4. While cranking engine, observe CMP and CKP state using scan tool. If scan tool shows current CKP state present, go to next step. If scan tool does not show current CKP state present, go to TEST TC-40A. 5. If scan tool shows current CMP state present, go to next step. If scan tool does not show current CMP state present, go to TEST TC-1A. 6. Go to TEST NS-1B. TEST NS-1B - QUALIFYING A NO START CONDITION 1. Disconnect cylinder No. 2 spark plug wire. Insert an insulated screwdriver in plug wire end. Hold screwdriver within 1/4" of ground. While observing for spark, crank engine for 10 seconds. Consider one or 2 sparks as a no spark condition. If good spark is present, go to TEST NS-2A. If good spark is not present, go to next step. 2. Reconnect spark plug wire. Remove distributor cap. Put one end of a spark plug wire into high tension tower of distributor. Insert an insulated screwdriver into other end of spark plug wire. Hold screwdriver within 1/4" of ground. Go to next step. 3. While observing for spark, crank engine for 10 seconds. Consider one or 2 sparks as a no spark condition. If good spark is present, replace distributor cap and rotor. Perform TEST VER-1A. If good spark is not present, go to next step. 4. Disconnect distributor 2-pin connector. Turn ignition on. Using scan tool, actuate ignition coil. Using scan tool in voltmeter mode, check voltage of ASD relay output circuit Dark NOTE: Perform all trouble code testing, that affects vehicles ability to start, before proceeding. NOTE: Steps 2) and 3) check for a stray signal. No signal should be generated. NOTE: Perform TEST NS-1A before proceeding. CAUTION: If screwdriver is more than 1/4" from ground, Powertrain Control module (PCM) damage may result. Green/Orange wire at distributor 2-pin connector. If voltage is more than 10 volts, go to next step. If voltage is 10 volts or less, repair open ASD relay output circuit. Perform TEST VER- 1A. 5. Turn ignition off. Disconnect distributor 6-pin connector. Using scan tool in ohmmeter mode, check resistance of ground circuit Black wire (not sensor ground circuit) at distributor 6-pin connector. See Fig. 50 . If resistance is less than 5 ohms, go to next step. If resistance is 5 ohms or more, repair open ground circuit. Perform TEST VER-1A. 6. Turn ignition on. Connect an analog voltmeter between ignition coil driver circuit and ground circuit at distributor 6-pin connector. See Fig. 50 . Using scan tool, actuate ignition coil. If voltmeter shows a pulsating deflection, go to next step. If voltmeter does not show a pulsating deflection, go to step 8). 7. Check engine valve timing. If engine valve timing is within specification, replace ignition coil. Perform TEST VER-1A. If engine valve timing is not within specification, repair engine valve timing as necessary. Perform TEST VER-1A. 8. Turn ignition off. Disconnect Powertrain Control Module (PCM) connector. Using scan tool in ohmmeter mode, check resistance of ignition coil driver circuit Black/Gray wire at distributor 6-pin connector. If resistance is 5 ohms or more, go to next step. If resistance is less than 5 ohms, repair short to ground on ignition coil driver circuit. Perform TEST VER-2A. 9. Using external ohmmeter, check resistance of ignition coil driver circuit Black/Gray wire between distributor 6-pin connector and PCM connector terminal No. 11. If resistance is more than 5 ohms, repair open ignition coil driver circuit. Perform TEST VER-1A. If resistance is 5 ohms or less, replace PCM. Perform TEST VER-2A. NOTE: Next step checks PCM's ability to drive ignition coil driver circuit. An analog voltmeter capable of detecting 0.1 volt is necessary to perform @test step. 12/28/2009 ...

Here's by the book on No Start for your car, but some steps require the chrysler DRB III tool!

COIL TEST 1. Turn ignition off. Disconnect distributor 2-pin connector and coil wire. Using a DVOM, measure resistance of primary and secondary coil circuits. Measure primary circuit resistance between distributor 2-pin connector terminals (on distributor). 2. Measure secondary circuit resistance between each terminal of distributor 2-pin connector (on distributor) and coil tower. See IGNITION COIL RESISTANCE table. If resistance is within specification, ignition coil is okay. If resistance is not within specification, replace ignition coil.

DISTRIBUTOR CAP A resistor is built into distributor cap. Remove distributor cap from engine. Disconnect coil wire. Using a DVOM, measure resistance between distributor cap center button and coil terminal. Resistance should be 5000 ohms. If resistance is not within specification, replace distributor cap. If resistance is within specification, distributor cap is okay.

thank you , yea this is what i needed. check it first thing in the morning.

got no spark out of high tension tower checked voltage at 2 pin conn. dark green /orange wire w/ voltmeter - pos. lead to green/ orange wire - neg. lead to eng. grd.. got less than 10 volts, 3 milli volts. next step says to repair open at ASD relay output circuit. what is that , location, schematic. Had my leads cossed, pos. lead to + pos. neg. lead to green/orange wire at 2 pin conn., got more than 10 volts. ASD relay checked good. next step.


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ASD=Auto shutdown relay, it's in the under hood fuse block Located in position 10 Here's the diagrams and cavity #'s for testing.

checking coil primary, at 2 pin conn. at the distributor across the 2 terminals, on the 200 ohm scale I got 1.1 ohms, should be .06 - .08.. Checking coil secondary, on the 20k ohm scale I got 5000 ohms, should be 12,000 - 18,000 ohms. does this mean my coil is bad.



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It seems by these numbers it is, take it with you to the parts store, most can test it before you replace it. How did ASD pin 89 testing go?

ASD relay circuit check out good. had my leads crossed when checking 2 pin conn. green/orange wire. checking it the right way. checked out good.
Thank you so much for your help. the imformation from service manual at auto parts store was to vauge.
the imformation you gave me was systematic and tehcnical. I will see if auto parts will test the coil. you have to buy whole distributor. 250.00 bucks. Did you ever check the manufacture date on the distributor? I know your symtoms didnt match exactly, but the TSB does say other symtoms can occur, and I catagorize yours as another symtom...

Did you ever check the manufacture date on the distributor? I know your symtoms didnt match exactly, but the TSB does say other symtoms can occur, and I catagorize yours as another symtom...

I dont know were to find the manufacture date for the distributor. the only numbers i found on the distributor were T5T7172 and 1917VC.
But got a distributor from junk yard for 50.00 bucks.
checked the coil seconary readings on junk yard distributor and the readings are within specs. going to install it this morning.

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thanks for your help. a nother satisfied customer.
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put distributor in started up, but got a high idle condition, idle at 2000 rpms. there was about 1/8 of movement either way of distributor could that have something to do with it.

Might be time to check for codes. Try this and post any codes that show.
Using Malfunction Indicator Light (MIL) 1. Ensure battery is fully charged. Turn ignition on and note operation of MIL. The MIL is located on instrument panel. When ignition is first turned on, MIL should come on to verify bulb and circuit operation, and then go off. 2. Turn ignition on, off, on, off and on within 5 seconds. Record 2-digit Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) as displayed by flashing MIL. 3. For example, DTC 24 will be displayed by 2 flashes, short pause, and then 4 flashes. A short pause will exist between first and second digits on DTC. If more than one DTC is stored, after first DTC is displayed, there will be a longer pause and then another stored DTC will be displayed. 4. Once all DTCs are recorded, proceed to retrieving DTCs using scan tool to ensure all DTCs are obtained. See USING SCAN TOOL. NOTE: If MIL does not come on and then go off, bulb circuit may be defective, or problem area may exist on CCD Bus between Powertrain Control Module (PCM) and instrument cluster. If problem exists with CCD Bus, this problem may be displayed when using scan tool to retrieve DTCs.