Radio replacement?

Tiny
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Okay, from my experience constant power is to save memory and data and the ignition wire is supposed to power up the radio when the car is on constant power works fine just popped the fuse but it will turn the ignition but the ignition twelve volt wire coming out of the dash is not getting any power. I checked the fuse and there is no power to the fuse. If I had light I would take a picture but it is really dark, but sum it up the wire only gets power when I turn the key (which it will turn the key wire does not get any power). I do not have the factory harness it was torn off by old owner, I am hard wiring it.
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You are making my head spin.

"but sum it up the wire only gets power when I turn the key (which it will turn the key wire does not get any power"

If you never have twelve volts on the yellow/black wire, and fuse # 11, has no voltage on either side, the likely suspect is the ignition switch. The part of it that feeds the radio's switched twelve volts also feeds the delay wiper circuit, the rear wiper and washer circuit, and the power windows, if you have those. If all of those systems are out too, head to the ignition switch's connector. You will find twelve volts on the yellow wire feeding it. You are supposed to get twelve volts on its black/light green wire when switched to the "run" or "accessory" positions.
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Tiny
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Okay, getting a little more understanding of it. I have my constant all my windows and everything work. All I need is to get the switched twelve volt power that is all I need, sorry have a tendency to talk over my head. All I need is that switched twelve volt that is what I am trying to diagnose everything works perfect except the switched twelve volt.
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Somewhere along the line fuse 11 is blown, it is making poor contact in its socket, or that yellow/black wire is cut. If the delayed wipers work, that proves the ignition switch is okay.

I will be back tomorrow to see how you are doing.
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Hey, I took some pictures of the wires and the radio. None of the wires have power now. Hopefully by seeing the pictures it would help you out helping me figure it out.
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Here are the pictures.
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You are overlooking something very basic. You have to have 12 volts all the time on the light green/yellow wire, and there must be 12 volts on the yellow/black when the ignition switch is on. If the interior lights work, the light green/yellow circuit has to be okay. If you are finding 0 volts all over, check what you're using for ground for your meter or test light. On a lot of Ford products you will see a metal bar running along the bottom of the dash assembly, but that bar does not actually bolt to the body, so it cannot be used for any ground circuits.
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Tiny
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The light green wire has power through it and works fine. Still struggling with the ignition/switched power I cannot seem to find a diagram for the inner fuse box but everything the ignition is connected to works, but the previous owner told me when he was messing with it. That wire has gotten red hot before. I do not know where that wire leads so I cannot really find if there is a fried part of the wire somewhere.
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Tiny
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And accidentally made a mistake with the vehicle information it has a v6 motor not a four cylinder.
If that resolves any confusion.
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We often need to know the engine size to get the right wiring diagrams and parts lists, but not in this case.

Oh; that adds another dimension to this sad story. I used to tell my students it was not proper to run a new wire to solve a problem. The defect in the old wire must be found because whatever happened to it is likely to happen to the others in that harness. Common things are a harness fell down and was rubbing on the sharp edge of a metal bracket, it fell onto hot exhaust parts, or a screw got run through that harness. How long will it be before the same thing happens to the next wires in that harness, and where will your customer be on a dark Saturday night when he's broke down on the side of the road?

In this case we can assume the defect was caused by operator error, and while a hot wire will melt the insulation on adjacent wires, we are probably safe in assuming if no other damage has shown up in those other wires this far, they will likely be okay. This would be an appropriate time to run a new power wire for your radio.

The light green/yellow wire is for the radio's memory circuit so it is always live. My question is if the yellow/black switched power wire got red hot, why did the fuse not blow? That is just a 15-amp fuse. 15 amps will not turn that wire red hot.
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Friday, November 27th, 2020 AT 4:57 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Would touching the constant and switched together cause that? Because when I removed the old radio all the wires were clumped together and exposed. About the fuse; I tested all the fuses in the interior fuse box and two of the places where the fuses go are not reading any power when the car is on or off.
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Touching two wires with the same voltage will not hurt anything. All that can happen is one of the circuits will not turn off when it should.
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Friday, November 27th, 2020 AT 4:57 PM (Merged)
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Okay, real question of all this, how do I get my switched/ignition twelve volts to work? What will I need? What do I need to replace? Where can I find it, and how do I get it re-operational? Would it hurt anything to make my own switch off of the constant power?
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Tiny
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Hey, what wires coordinate with the speakers? I got everything resolved, but I got the speakers wires wrong. I tried the diagram but does not show which color.
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Sorry that the diagrams reproduced too small to read.

Left front speaker is orange/light green and light blue/white.
Left rear is pink/light green and tan/yellow.
Right front is white/light green and dark green/orange.
Right rear is orange/red and black/white.
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