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Wednesday, December 5th, 2012 AT 8:31 PM
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Yes I do cover the hole with my finger
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So the when you air up the 2nd clutch pack port the clutches wont move till you put pressure on the clutches themselves?2nd gear is the larger of the two clutch packs that are back to back.
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Wednesday, December 5th, 2012 AT 8:47 PM
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Um when I put air to the port for the 2nd apply piston it moves and stays out it is not like the 3rd apply piston where it goes back and forth it the 2nd clutches are the ones facing the drives side wheel and the 3rd are facing the other way on the same shaft. The 2nd clutches seem to move better when I put my finger on the other than that they do move on there own just slower by the way there does not seem to be any leaks that I can see or hear but I don't know what I should be looking for. This is my first time doing this kinda thing.
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Wednesday, December 5th, 2012 AT 10:00 PM
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Where are you located I am in the bay area hayward
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Wednesday, December 5th, 2012 AT 10:01 PM
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Iam in southern California you can pouring some transmission fluid over the clutch housings and look for. Bubbles I have used that method to find leaks before. Another thing that happens to those transmissions is the input shaft that the 1st 2nd and 3rd gear are on the nut that goes againist the 1st gear clutch pack under the side cover loosens up.I have seen them loose up so much you loose reverse all together. Also to where the first gear clutch pack eats into the side cover. But you said as soon as you shift into reverse the pressure shoots to over 200 psi even though there is a 5 second delay into reverse?
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Thursday, December 6th, 2012 AT 12:20 AM
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Yes it shoot over 200 then it drops for 5 sec. Then it shoot back over 200 so do you think I should check the nut and see if it is torque to 150ft? Or is it 115 ft?
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Thursday, December 6th, 2012 AT 1:04 AM
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It shouldnt drop pressure like that when in reverse it should go toover 200 and stay there the pressure is going somewhere.I always torque the nut the nut to 115 ftlbs. If the nut is loose then remove the nut and add loctite then torque it down. Also when air checking 2nd and 3rd gear does the shaft move a lot?
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Thursday, December 6th, 2012 AT 1:50 AM
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Okay so I took off the side cover and grabbed the 1 set of clutches and there is play in the shaft of course I did not have the 23 mm socket to see if it was loose but just to be safe I will remove the nut and add loc-tight and torque it to 115ft lb. And i'll torque the other nut too seem how I have the cover off. When I air checked it I did not see or feel the shaft move
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Friday, December 7th, 2012 AT 2:26 AM
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If the clutch pack has looseness on the shaft then the nuts loose you will need a thin wall socket probably a 3/8" drive one. Also when putting the side cover back on there is a trick so dont damage the seals and tubes. Before putting the side cover back on look down into the shafts and see if the bushings in them are in good shape. Now when installing the side put the transmission in drive. But be careful not to jamb or bend the rod going to the manual valve of the valve body since its not hooked up with the valve body off. Then while inserting the tubes in shafts and installing the side cover turn the left front wheel hub as you slide the cover on. That way the cover will slide right on otherwise you will probably fight the cover and damage something.
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Friday, December 7th, 2012 AT 3:23 AM
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Okay I torque the two nuts and put it all back together and now it wont go into reverse what did I do wrong?
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Friday, December 7th, 2012 AT 7:51 PM
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I torques it to 115ft lbs then I air checked it and every thing seem to still move so I put the valve body back and started it up but it goes forward and it feels it it is in gear when it is in park and reverse goes forward and neutral goes forward too could I have bent the tube? Would the tube cause this issue?
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Friday, December 7th, 2012 AT 8:49 PM
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If you did it the way I told you the tubes shouldnt have gotten bent. First thing that comes to mind is bent manual valve linkage or not hooked to the manual valve?
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Saturday, December 8th, 2012 AT 1:08 AM
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I took side cover back off and it looks okay so I put it back on I don't understand all I did was put the valve body back on then the cover hooked the wires back up. Did not unhook manual valve I did notice that I did not hear the solenoids when I put into gear it acts like it is in the forward gears in all gear selection even park if it was not for the parking gear I think it would go forward
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Saturday, December 8th, 2012 AT 4:50 AM
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I will check and see if I popped a fuse for the transmission tomorrow I hope that is all that happen
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Saturday, December 8th, 2012 AT 4:51 AM
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You have to unhook the manual valve linkage from it when removing the valve body. Then hook the manual valve back up when reinstalling the valve body.
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Sunday, December 9th, 2012 AT 1:48 AM
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"yes you are right" I opened it back up and found out that I did not hook it back up I did hook it back up but now I think it is bent so I will have to see if I can straighten it on monday
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Sunday, December 9th, 2012 AT 6:33 AM
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I knew it I have done it once before and yes they get bent and ground up from doing that. Is it hard to shift thru the gears now?If so its bent.
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Sunday, December 9th, 2012 AT 6:49 AM
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Yes it is bent I will straighten it
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Monday, December 10th, 2012 AT 4:53 PM
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Let me know how that goes.
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Monday, December 10th, 2012 AT 4:55 PM
HSSWEETAUTOMOTIVE
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Okay I straighten the rod that goes down to the park and took the other rod out and replaced it with the one from the other trans it shifts like it was new nice and smooth I also changed the temp sensor too.
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Tuesday, December 11th, 2012 AT 2:33 AM
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