No spark again

Tiny
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Its not the anti thieft device or the distrubiter or computer or sensor there is no spark why wont the car start
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Saturday, December 21st, 2019 AT 12:21 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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That's not much to go on. What sensor are you talking about? Why did you replace all those random parts? Has anything actually been diagnosed? Which engine do you have?
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Saturday, December 21st, 2019 AT 12:21 PM (Merged)
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RAYRAYBABYBOI13
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Ok. It seems like once a month my car has something new going one with her lately. Now she is getting no spark. The car is cranking over like no other, someone looked at it for me, only pulled out one spark plug and then told me its the crank sensor. I wanna know for sure thats wat it is because i'm sure it could be other things. I've had the car for two years now and she's never had a tune-up for instance. It has a coil pack and idk how to determine if that is good or not. Anyways i'm gonna go pull the other plugs out right now to make sure they are all not getting spark. Where should I start after this to determine the problem?

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Ray-ray
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Saturday, December 21st, 2019 AT 12:22 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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If you're missing spark at one spark plug wire, you're missing it at it's mate too so there's no point in wasting time looking at the others. If you were just missing spark at one spark plug, the engine would still run.

Professional mechanics are not psychic, so whoever determined the crankshaft position sensor was defective must be really good. The easiest way to know is if here's a diagnostic fault code set related to that, but it's important to understand that fault codes never say to replace parts or that they're defective. They only indicate the circuit or system that needs further diagnosis. Chrysler makes reading fault codes yourself real easy. Cycle the ignition switch from "off" to "run" three times within five seconds without cranking the engine, then watch the code numbers show up in the odometer display.

If there are no fault codes, the first step is to determine if you also have no fuel. The easiest way is to determine if the automatic shutdown relay is turning on during cranking. You'll need a test light or a digital voltmeter for that test. You listed a V-6 engine and said it has a coil pack. Coil packs were only used on the four-cylinder engines. Which engine do you really have?
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Saturday, December 21st, 2019 AT 12:22 PM (Merged)
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The guy who looked at my car was not a mechanic. So that is why I am skeptical he told me it had a coil pack but I know the car is a six cylinder. And my odometer hasn't worked since I have it so gettin a code out of her ain't gonna work. I wasn't getting a positive connection to my starter relay about a month ago but I bypassd it wit a new wire. I'll check it wit a test light again.

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Saturday, December 21st, 2019 AT 12:22 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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I'm not sure what you're trying to say in those last two sentences. How did we get from no-spark to a starter problem?
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Saturday, December 21st, 2019 AT 12:22 PM (Merged)
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My dad told me that the wire for the stater relay can cuz no spark. Is that not true? I guess I'm lost as well
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Saturday, December 21st, 2019 AT 12:22 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Nope. He's probably thinking of an ignition resistor bypass circuit used a long time ago. On your car there is no relation between the starter relay and the automatic shutdown (ASD) relay.

If your engine is cranking normally, you will need a code reader or scanner to read the fault codes if the odometer doesn't work. You can test the ASD circuit by measuring the voltage at any injector or either small terminal on the back of the alternator. You will see 12 volts there for one second after you turn on the ignition switch. What is important is if that voltage comes back during cranking. If it does not, the two most common suspects are the crankshaft position sensor and the camshaft position sensor inside the distributor. The cam sensor has the higher failure rate, but because of the difficulty in replacing it, most people just replace the entire distributor.

Also be sure the rotor is turning. If it is not, the timing belt is broken and valves will be damaged. That, and the loss of compression, will make the engine crank faster than normal.
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Saturday, December 21st, 2019 AT 12:22 PM (Merged)
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Getting no spark at plugs, no injector pulse or no power at cam sensor connector on distributor. Eng.& Battery have been removed for 2 weeks. I think theirs a security shutdown issue
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Saturday, December 21st, 2019 AT 12:22 PM (Merged)
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I want to say you asd relay, But I thought that was my problem to because it shuts down everything and you will not get spark, you can try it, they are $7 dollars at autozone or even radio shack. But I think it is something inside your distributor. Maybe bad pick up coil or camshaft sensor. I have the same exact problem. I put another distributor on it (witch has problems also) so it still didnt start but the condition got better.
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Saturday, December 21st, 2019 AT 12:22 PM (Merged)
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I have checked every thing and I have no spark belt si good rotor turning every thing good but no spark. Is there a way to test the coil onthe car thanks al
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Saturday, December 21st, 2019 AT 12:22 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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1. Disconnect the 2-pin electrical connector to the distributor.
2. Measure coil primary resistance between the two terminals on the distributor. 0.6 to 0.8 ohm
3. Measure col secondary resistance between coil hi-tension tower and each of the terminals of the 2-pin connector. Both reading should be between 12,000 to 18,000 ohms.

If any of the three readings out of specs, replace the entire distributor assembly.
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Saturday, December 21st, 2019 AT 12:22 PM (Merged)
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Coil checke 0.7-.07 on terminals and 14,150 both treminals to high tension? WHAT DO I CHECK NEXT THANKA AL
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Saturday, December 21st, 2019 AT 12:22 PM (Merged)
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https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/55316_97sebringhood_1.jpg



Check your ASD relay (on cowl, left rear of engine compartment) and check injector pulse.
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Saturday, December 21st, 2019 AT 12:22 PM (Merged)
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What holds this thing besides the bolt? I can't get mine out to test it thanks al
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Saturday, December 21st, 2019 AT 12:22 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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I believe just the bolt, nothing else.
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Saturday, December 21st, 2019 AT 12:22 PM (Merged)
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Last night I was driving my 1997 Chrysler Sebring hardtop and everything was fine. Then, all of a sudden the car just shut off and would not turn back over. We checked this morning and there is no spark coming from the spark plug wires. Just trying to see if anyone has had this happen before I go spend hundreds of dollars for a dealership to tell me whats wrong with it.
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Saturday, December 21st, 2019 AT 12:22 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Maybe pcm, maybe ignition coils?

You don't have to go to the dealership, independent auto repairs are avaliable and qualified.
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Saturday, December 21st, 2019 AT 12:22 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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WELL, I WORK FOR A CAR DEALERSHIP, THAT IS THE ONLY REASON I GO THERE TO GET MY CAR WORKED ON.
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Saturday, December 21st, 2019 AT 12:22 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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IMHO. Might want to rethink if that is in your best interest. I am not familiar with a specific problem that would be consisent to recommend a part replacement.
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