Squealing power steering belt

Tiny
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  • 2004 HYUNDAI ELANTRA
  • 2.0L
  • 4 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 70,000 MILES
When started during cold weather power steering belt slips and squeals for 60 seconds. Then is okay. Also intermittently slips and squeals while turning afterward. The colder it gets the more it happens. Doesn't squeal in warm weather at all.

Three different manufacturer's belts were changed. All quiet in summer and noise happens as it gets colder on all three.

It's absolutely the power steering belt area. Properly tightened. Squirting water on belt silences it temporarily. Checked alignment, pulleys, and power steering pump. Last belt was a OEM Hyundai part bought at dealer. Pump spins freely. Fluid changed. I've since been told this is a problem with some of the pulleys and the belt and the only way to fix it was to get an actual Hyundai OEM belt. Tried that. No joy.
Thursday, December 5th, 2019 AT 12:18 PM

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Tiny
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So if everything is tight as you stated the other main cause of this is a pulley that is beginning to seize. When this happens it is hard to turn when it is cold and the belt slips. Then in turning the power steering pump has more stress on it and it causes it to slip.

I suspect the power steering pump is the culprit. Clearly the fact that you can spin it freely does not help this theory but based on everything you are describing it just points to the pump. Also, how did you check the pump? Did you monitor the pressure?
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Thursday, December 5th, 2019 AT 7:04 PM
Tiny
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When I bought the car (18 months ago) supposedly all fluids were flushed and all belts were replaced. It was bought as a used car with about 70,000 miles on it and the dealer did a good job of going over just about everything on the car. At that time while replacing all the belts the power steering system was flushed and checked out. I tend to agree, although just about everything "other" then replacing the pump was done, it looks to me like the pump is failing. I also put a wrench on the pump pulley to rotate the pump and I thought it was interesting that the pulley AND belt turned somewhat easily with the belt rotating without slipping at all on the pump pulley and I could see that the belt was slipping easily around the engine pulley. Of course there were mechanical geometry things in play with the torque of the smaller pump pulley being applied to the larger engine pulley. But I would have thought it would have been more difficult to turn. In short, when turning the pulley by hand the belt slips only around the motor pulley and doesn't slip at all on the pump pulley. So all things considered, my thought is the pump is seizing when cold and after it warms up in 60 to 90 seconds it frees up. Just weird that it works perfectly all summer and the problem only shows up when it gets to an average temp. Of around 45 F. Or lower which kept me thinking it was a "belt" issue.
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Friday, December 6th, 2019 AT 9:03 AM
Tiny
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You're thinking is right on. I would agree that this sounds like a belt but based on what you have done to eliminate that, the pump is the only other thing that makes sense.

If it were me, I would replace the pump and go from there. They are not that expensive and pretty easy to replace so it doesn't take a large commitment to change it out.
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Friday, December 6th, 2019 AT 4:38 PM

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