1998 Other Saturn Models engine code P0341

Tiny
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  • 1998 SATURN
  • 4 CYL
  • FWD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 98,500 MILES
I have a 98 Saturn sl2. The problem I am having is an intermittent sputter. It only happens in wet road conditions. What happens is while driving it will sputter for 1 to 2 seconds and clear up. The service engine soon light will come on and stay on. The code I have is P0341 (camshaft Position Sensor A - Bank 1 CKT Range/Perf). I know that there is no camshaft sensor so I don't know why this code comes up. Also The way I get the service engine light to go out is to shut off the car remove the gas cap for 20 seconds, reinstall the cap, and start the engine and the light is off. The car has been serviced by Saturn for this problem and they changed the plugs and wires, and "reconditioned" the coil pack. Any Ideas would be very helpful. Thank You T. Mates
Friday, January 11th, 2008 AT 6:44 AM

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Tiny
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Here's what your looking for, and how to do it...


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Friday, January 11th, 2008 AT 8:43 AM
Tiny
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Thanks for the help! If I understand you correctly the problem can be related to the weather conditions like an old distributor cap getting wet. Looks like I have a bit of work to do.
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Friday, January 11th, 2008 AT 9:07 AM
Tiny
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Check under the coils for cyl 1 and 4 it's paired that way, then test for a bad PCM or EI module. The tests are in your email so you can read!
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Friday, January 11th, 2008 AT 9:48 AM
Tiny
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Is the PCM (powertrain control module) the same as what I remember called the eccm (electronic control module) aka main computer? Sorry, but it's been a long time since I had to work on computer issues in cars.

Ok I finally got a good look at the EI mod. I didn't realize that it was all separate pieces (2 coil packs and an Ignition Control Module underneath with a plug). The PCM checks ok but I see the plug for the EI has corrosion around the plug at the ICM. That is probably my problem there.
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Friday, January 11th, 2008 AT 10:03 AM
Tiny
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Could be see if you can clean it out, disconnect the battery, get some electrical contact cleaner, clean the connectors, let dry and see if it helps.
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Friday, January 11th, 2008 AT 6:54 PM
Tiny
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Ive always replaced coils and the module for that code. Let me know if cleaning it cures your problem, that would help me for future diagnostics. Thanks
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Friday, January 11th, 2008 AT 7:00 PM
Tiny
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Ok here it is. That is / was the problem. I took a water spray bottle and sprayed the plug for the mod A LOT. Sure enough it started missing, checked for code and p0341 was there (previously erased). Then I sprayed WD-40 on the plug and sprayed with watter again. This time nothing happened. I pulled the coils and mod and found the mod had a crack in the plastic socket for the plug. I replaced the mod and both coil packs, sprayed two water bottles full on it and not a hint of a miss.
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Saturday, January 12th, 2008 AT 9:51 AM
Tiny
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OK! So much for Cam sensor eh?
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Saturday, January 12th, 2008 AT 1:07 PM

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