Passenger Presence Sensor Bypass?

Tiny
JIM IN HAWI
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  • 2017 CHEVROLET VOLT
  • 15,000 MILES
The dealership diagnosed this airbag sensor issue and determined a new seat sensor is required ($1200 + labor). We simply want to enable the airbag for the passenger seat full-time. Never children riding nor do we care if it goes off unoccupied. There's a bypass module from airbag 360 for the previous model range (up to 2015) and hoping there's a means to provide a similar bypass.
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Monday, January 2nd, 2023 AT 4:05 PM

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Tiny
KEN L
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I can't tell you how to bypass safety devices on your car but I can give you the wiring diagrams so you can see how the system works so you can go from there. Check out the images (below).
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Tuesday, January 3rd, 2023 AT 10:08 AM
Tiny
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Thanks for the diagram, as I suspected the PPS appears to be on the CAN/LAN (LO SPD GMLAN) as labeled in your diagram, so there's no bypassing a contact or other simple permissive. Are there any diagrams showing additional connection to the PPS? Somewhere, somehow this connects into a capacitance-based sensor that's incorporated into the seat, unless "said" sensing is built directly into the module? Appreciative of any other insights or direction.
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Tuesday, January 3rd, 2023 AT 10:51 AM
Tiny
KEN L
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Yes, the sensor is built into the module, here are the rest of the airbag wiring diagrams so you can see how the system works. Check out the images (Below). Please let us know what happens.
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Wednesday, January 4th, 2023 AT 7:33 PM
Tiny
JIM IN HAWI
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Ken,

You say, "here are the rest of the diagrams", but no image/attachments that surface.

Thanks again in advance.
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Wednesday, January 4th, 2023 AT 8:49 PM
Tiny
KEN L
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My bad, I updated the post.
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Thursday, January 5th, 2023 AT 12:31 PM
Tiny
JIM IN HAWI
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Thank you, Ken,

The diagrams are glorious, and should I need any point-to-point troubleshooting I am indeed ready with your diagrams.

Since the only means to spoof the Sensing and Diagnostic Module is to provide it with the proper CAN codes from the passenger-side PPS module, do you by chance have access to the specific CAN message frames that it requires?

I'm an embedded developer and it wouldn't take a lot to create a CAN-based node on this LAN. If you have these codes, I'd appreciate you providing them.

As an aside, I've sent multiple messages to the Airbag360 group (in Ireland) to no avail as I was hoping they could shed some light on the sensor hack. They have a module for the prior Volt model, so if the codes haven't changed across models, this could ultimately be a win... here's the link:

https://airbag360.com/chevrolet-volt-front-passenger-side-airbag-seat--occupancy-sensor--emulator-704-p.asp

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Thursday, January 5th, 2023 AT 1:10 PM
Tiny
KEN L
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I am sorry we don't have the codes you are asking for, but it sounds like you are on the right track. Use 2CarPros anytime, we are here to help. Please tell a friend.
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Thursday, January 5th, 2023 AT 1:18 PM

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