MAY RUBBER PARTICLES IN THE COOLING SYSTEM BE A PROBLEM?

Tiny
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The green coolant/antifreeze in the car was clean and clear.
But while I was connecting new hose coupler(attached photo)between two cooling hoses(in order to build a
shape of hose that I didn't find in the stores)i was creating some rubber particles in the hoses(that was made from the pushing action of the hose coupler into the hoses).
I forgot to wash the final-made hose and I connected it back to the car(between the expansion tank and the metal flange tube, but while I added fresh anti freeze I saw
some rubber particles in the expansion tank(that were washed from the hose and now they are flowing in the cooling system. After some miles of driving the particles slowly disappearing but they are, still, flowing in the system.
My question:May these rubber particles in the cooling system be a problem?
The coolant is new and all the system was clean. There are only those rubber particles that made by me, since I
forgot to wash the inside of the hose before connecting them back.
And I really would like to avoid making flush to the system just because of that(as I mentioned, the coolant was new and clear before)if it may not be an issue.
BTW, one of the hose that is connected to the hose couple is new and the other is old.
So, I guess that most of the particles was made from the old hose.

Thanks in advance.
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Friday, August 28th, 2015 AT 5:29 AM

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Tiny
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IF THEY ARE TINY PARTICLES, I WOULD NOT WORRY ABOUT THEM!

IF THE HOSES ARE CRUMBLING IN THAT MANNER, IT MIGHT BE TIME TO BREAK DOWN AND REPLACE THEM, BEFORE YOU ARE EYEBALLING A RUPTURE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD!

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Friday, August 28th, 2015 AT 4:47 PM
Tiny
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What is considered tiny particles?
I mean:what is the maximum size that
the particles can be without make problems?
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Saturday, August 29th, 2015 AT 9:20 PM
Tiny
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FROM THE WAY YOU DESCRIBE THE PARTICLES, THEY ARE AS SMALL OR SMALLER THAN "STOP LEAK" (THAT RESEMBLES "GLITTER") USED IN RADIATORS TO PLUG HOLES.

THE BARBED HOSE COUPLER FITTING SCUFFED OFF A SMALL AMOUNT OF DETERIORATING HOSE

I'D SAY THAT IF THE PARTICLES CAN EZily TRAVEL THRU THE RADIATOR VANES THEY WILL HAVE NO ILL AFFECT ANYWHERE ELSE.

IF YOU ARE REALLY WORRIED, WHY DON'T YOU FLUSH THE COOLING SYSTEM?

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Saturday, August 29th, 2015 AT 9:54 PM
Tiny
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Yes, they small enough to flow through the radiator vanes.
The problem is that after I made a flush(was made, unfortunately, before I connect the new hose), change the hose and refill a new expensive green coolant, I realized that I forgot to wash the new hose.
So doing the whole thing again is too much.
I understand that if they can easily flow through the radiator they will have no ill affect anywhere else, like at the engine block passages, the heater etc.
What about the tiny hole in the cooling systen thermostat(the hole that let the air pockets to get out)should I be worry that it will be blocked?
It is much smaller than the radiator vains, but I don't if the cooling system built in that way, that prevent the tiny hole to be clogged?
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Sunday, August 30th, 2015 AT 1:56 AM
Tiny
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YOU COULD DRAIN IT DOWN, USE A PAINT STRAINER OR EQUIVALENT TO STRAIN OUT THE PARTICLES.

FLUSH THE SYSTEM WITH WATER, THEN RE-INSTALL THE COOLANT YOU JUST STRAINED.

HOWEVER, I STILL SEE NOTHING BAD HAPPENING AS IT IS NOW!

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Sunday, August 30th, 2015 AT 9:32 AM
Tiny
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Thanks, Medic for your help,
Regard to the thermostat tiny hole and I ask the following question
in general and not just for my special case.
Can this tiny hole be clogged Or it built in that way that particles don't clogged it?
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Sunday, August 30th, 2015 AT 11:42 AM
Tiny
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THAT LITTLE HOLE IS THERE TO LET THE "TRAPPED AIR" IN THE BLOCK/ HEAD(S) ESCAPE AS YOU FILL THE RADIATOR WITH COOLANT. THIS MIGHT MAKE FILLING THE SYSTEM FASTER.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MAKING THE THERMOSTAT OPERATE.

MANY THERMOSTATS DO NOT HAVE THE LITTLE HOLE, IN THESE CASES, ONE MUST RUN THE CAR UNTIL IT REACHES OPERATING TEMPERATURE. THE THERMOSTAT WILL OPEN. THE TRAPPED AIR WILL "BURP OUT". WHEN THIS HAPPENS, THE COOLANT LEVEL IN THE RADIATOR WILL DROP. YEP! YOU GUESSED IT, YOU WILL HAVE TO POUR SOME MORE IN TO MAKE UP FOR THE AIR DISPLACEMENT!

I'VE BEEN DOING THAT EVER SINCE I STARTED DRIVING! I'VE ALWAYS/ AND HAVE ONLY OWNED JEEP CJ-5s

SOME PEOPLE DRILL A SMALL HOLE (MAYBE 1/16 OF AN INCH) IN NEW ONES TO DUPLICATE THE ONES THAT COME WITH A HOLE. THIS SMALL OF A HOLE BARELY "BYPASSES" THE THERMOSTAT WHILE OPERATING THE VEHICLE, AS IF IT WAS NOT THERE AT ALL.

I LOOKED UP YOUR STAT ON THE INTERNET ON MANY SITES, LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT VIEWS OF A PIC. SEEMS ALL OF THE SITES DISPLAY THE SAME PIC, WITH ONLY ONE VIEW. THE PART NUMBER IS "BGA CT5553". BELOW IS ONE SITE I LOOKED AT, AN AIR BLEED IS NOT SHOWN

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BGA-Thermostat-Coolant-Temp-Temperature-CT5553-Genuine-OEM-Quality-New-/231418999061

SO IF YOUR STAT DOES HAVE THE HOLE, AND IT GETS STOPPED UP, IF YOU HAVE TO REFILL THE COOLANT, YOU WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE STAT TO OPEN SO YOU CAN TOP IT OFF! (AT MOST A 5 MINUTE WAIT?)

I THINK EVERYTHING IS GONNA BE JUST FINE!

SEND US A PIC OF YOUR CAR! I'D LIKE TO SEE IT!

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Sunday, August 30th, 2015 AT 3:37 PM
Tiny
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Thanks, again, for your help.
I guess I will leave it as it is, since I had already done a flush and refilled a new coolant. And doing that big work again(while this condition, the particles, is not going to risk anything)is not such a fun.
But it is, unbelievable, how the all clear new coolant become dirty because of that small action.
Thanks:)
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Tuesday, September 1st, 2015 AT 4:22 AM
Tiny
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THE BEST TO YA!

COME SEE US AGAIN!

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Tuesday, September 1st, 2015 AT 3:35 PM
Tiny
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Hi Medic.
I came back early than was expected:)
I had some thought about the dirt that, also, might accumulated on the inside surface of the old hose.
And I would like to know if those rubber hoses tend to collect on there inside surface:calcium, magnesium or silicates during the years?
This old hose is 25 years old.
1)100% Hard tap water was flowing through the hose several years(lets ignore the damage that it done to the metal parts)so there are magnesium and calcium.
2)Traditional silicates green coolant was flowing through the hose another several years, so there is the silicates material.
Do rubber hoses tend to accumulate silicates(sand)calcium or magnesium on there inner surface?
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Saturday, September 5th, 2015 AT 6:25 AM
Tiny
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I HAVE SEEN WHITE BUILD UP IN HOSES, USUALLY AT FITTINGS (CONNECTIONS)

SEEN CALCIUM LOOKIN' CRAP IN RADIATOR VANES.

NOT KNOWING THE FULL STORY HERE, I DON'T THINK I'D TRUST A HOSE OVER 5 YEARS OLD, I'D ALSO CATCH THE REST OF STUFF UP USING A "SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE CHART" (FOUND IN A CHILTON/ HAYNES/ OR OTHER REPAIR MANUAL) LIKE ALL OF THE FLUIDS AND OTHER STUFF TOO.

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Saturday, September 5th, 2015 AT 5:46 PM
Tiny
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Neither I didn't like the idea to use this 25 years old hose(i used only half of it).
If old hose begin to leak at one place, it is not good idea only to seal it, but to change the all hose. But I didn't have any choice, I didn't find this hose or something close to it anywhere. So, I had to use part of it so the hose angle will fit to the flange.

Thanks.
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Sunday, September 6th, 2015 AT 3:30 AM
Tiny
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DID YOU LOOK AT ROCKAUTO. COM FOR A POSSIBLE NEW HOSE?

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Sunday, September 6th, 2015 AT 9:57 PM
Tiny
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I had already done the job, so it doesn't matter now.
I was looking for this 2 different diameter hose every where, at tens of stores, I think also rockauto.
Couldn't find it anywhere.
But as I said, the job had already done.
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Sunday, September 6th, 2015 AT 10:59 PM
Tiny
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I'M GUESSING YOU WENT TO THE BACK OF THE PARTS STORE AND LOOKED ALL OF THE HOSES OVER ON YOUR QUEST.

I'VE SEEN HOSES THAT THROUGHOUT THE MIDDLE PART THEY WERE "LETS SAY" 1-1/2 INCH (OR 2 OR WHATEVER)

HOWEVER THE CONNECTIONS SIZE ON EITHER END WERE DIFFERENT

KNOWING YOURS MUST TWIST OR CROOK A CERTAIN WAY TO FIT YOUR VEHICLE

MAYBE IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO FIND 2 HOSES, CORRECT "MIDDLE" SIZE AND CORRECT "CROOK" ON ONE END, AND THE OTHER HOSE COMPATIBLE ON THE OTHER END THE SAME WAY

THEN BASICALLY CHOP THE MIDDLE THE RIGHT LENGTH AND ASSEMBLE THEM LIKE YOU DID THIS OLD ONE.

I HAVE A PIC OF THE CONNECTORS IN MY "CAR QUESTION PICS" THAT I MAKE TO USE ON 2CARPROS

PIC BELOW
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Monday, September 7th, 2015 AT 5:34 PM
Tiny
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It was my orginal planning, but the searching was taking too much time.
I assume that next flushing, I will change it or maybe sooner, with bad luck ;)

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Tuesday, September 8th, 2015 AT 4:23 AM
Tiny
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GOOD LUCK WITH IT!

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