1996 Honda Accord

Tiny
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1996 Honda Accord 6 cyl Automatic

At 94,900 miles, car steering wheel was vibrating at 60 mph with maybe some vibration at decelleration.

Mechanic balanced tires. Then changed front and rear brake pads and resurfaced rotors because front pads were 10% and rear pads 25%.

However at 90,000 mile (89,159 real miles)maintenance front pads were 40% and rear pads 80%.

(I had replaced original rear pads after 67, 452 miles when pads were at 20%.)

Doesn't this seem like excessive wear after less than 6,000 miles?

I am original owner and keep careful maintenance records. There is no previous history of unusual/excessive wear on brake pads.

Thank you for your help.
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Friday, May 23rd, 2008 AT 5:42 PM

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Tiny
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This is all depend on your driving and the amount of braking you do

They should check the calipers and slider bolts
use a better quality pads
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Saturday, May 24th, 2008 AT 6:08 AM
Tiny
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Thank you very much for your response.

As far as I know, I don't believe there was any significant changes in my driving or in my braking habits.

Would't they check the calipers and slider bolts when they were diagnosing the cause of the vibration? Or when they replaced the pads and resurfaced the rotors?

They used Honda brake pads. What do you consider to be superior brake pads?
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Sunday, May 25th, 2008 AT 3:10 PM
Tiny
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This is were I thing they should've changed the pads and rotors
I don't believe in resurfacing the rotors more then once
so when you have vibration that's not the pads its the rotors
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Sunday, May 25th, 2008 AT 8:21 PM
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Hi there,

It is difficult to determine what are superior brake pads. The original is always the best for normal use, but performance pads will get you better grip when hot, then again it will wear out the rotor faster.

I do not know whether all the 4 wheels pads wear out almost at the same level or not so I am assuming they are.

For pads to wear out fast, it usually is due to excessive braking or as BMRFIXIT it mentioned, stuck slider bolts which can cause partial braking during driving. However if it is slider bolts, then the wear should be unbalanced for each wheel, usually pads will wear in a slanting way, 1 end thicker than the other. The probability of all 4 brakes wearing out quite balanced are almost a million to 1.

Another possibility is lack of pedal free play which will cause self braking and this will cause a more balanced premature wear. However Honda utilises a diagonal brake line system so excessive wear due to this should affect the front left and rear right more as the inner piston of the master pump is for this circuit.

A defective master pump which might have their pressure return hole clogged will cause the problem also.
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Monday, May 26th, 2008 AT 7:45 AM
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Hello BMRFIXIT and KHL: Thank you both for your responses.

Is the master pump different from the master cylinder?
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Wednesday, May 28th, 2008 AT 1:02 PM
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Thanks, BMR:

I think this is the first time my rotors have been resurfaced.

However, how can you tell if it's a wheel balance problem or the rotors?
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Wednesday, May 28th, 2008 AT 1:05 PM
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If you feel the vibration while driving with out any brakes
mostly between 40 and 65 mph
I would say tire balance
if you feel it only when applying brakes I would say its the rotors

master cylinder and master pump
Usually when you use the term pump it goes with an ABS pump
so master cylinder and brake ABS pump are two different parts
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Wednesday, May 28th, 2008 AT 7:43 PM
Tiny
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Hi there,

If you get the vibration only during deceleration, then you need to look at the steering linkages and other ball joints especially the lower arm.
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Thursday, May 29th, 2008 AT 9:42 AM
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Hello BMR: Thanks for your reply.

My complaint was vibration at 60 mph acceleration.

I had both my ABS modulator and brake master cylinder replaced less than 3 years ago.

Is the ABS pump different from the ABS modulator?
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Thursday, May 29th, 2008 AT 6:45 PM
Tiny
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Vibration while driving at about 60 mph
no braking involve I would say check the tires and balance


http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/99387_honda_brakes_1.jpg

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Friday, May 30th, 2008 AT 5:14 AM
Tiny
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Hi,

Since the vibration is acceleration related, check the driveshafts inboard joint for excessive wear or lack of lubrication.
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Friday, May 30th, 2008 AT 7:17 AM

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