High idle and engine does not decelerate

Tiny
KDICKERSON75
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  • 2008 CADILLAC ESCALADE ESV
  • 6.2L
  • V8
  • 4WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 121,000 MILES
So my truck some how gives me a engine power reduced message and I can only go 30 miles an hour. So I read it could be throttle body. So I have a 2006 Trailblazer SS that has a matching throttle body and the symptom is still there. Sometimes the error message comes on some days it doesn't. Now the Idle speed is high. I will be driving and take my foot of the pedal truck doesn't decelerate. What issues am I dealing with? Please help!
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Tiny
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Good morning,

Did you change the throttle body?

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/engine-idles-too-high

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/throttle-actuator-service

Can I have the code that was set?

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/reduced-power-limp-mode

I would start by doing a relearn for the idle.

Roy

#PIP4578B: SES Light Idle Surge And/Or Reduced Engine Power Mode With DTCs P0068 P0121 P0506 P0507 P1516 P2101 P2119 And/Or P2176 - Clean Throttle Body And Perform Idle Learn Reset - (Dec 18, 2017)
Subject: SES Light, Idle Surge, and/or Reduced Engine Power Mode with DTCs P0068, P0121, P0506, P0507, P1516, P2101, P2119, and/or P2176 - Clean Throttle Body and Perform Idle Learn Reset image
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This PI was superseded to update model years. Please discard PIP4578A.

The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.

Condition/Concern:
As carbon builds up in the throttle body of a high mileage vehicle, the ECM/PCM learns to compensate by increasing the throttle plate angle.

If enough carbon builds up, an idle surge, deceleration surge, tip-in hesitation, reduced engine power mode, and/or DTCs P0068, P0121, P1516, P2101, P2119, and/or P2176 may be experienced on high mileage vehicles.

If the throttle body is cleaned without performing an "idle learn reset/reset idle learn" with the Tech 2, the ECM/PCM may continue to compensate for previous carbon build up, causing it to return with a similar concern as well as DTCs P0121, P0506, and/or P0507.

In a similar fashion, if the ECM/PCM of a high mileage vehicle is replaced and/or reprogrammed without performing the Throttle/Idle Learn outlined in SI, the ECM/PCM may no longer compensate for existing carbon build up in the throttle body, causing it to return with a similar concern as well as DTCs P0121, P0506, and/or P0507.

Recommendation/Instructions:
If SI diagnosis does not isolate the cause of this concern, inspect the throttle body bore and plate for obvious carbon build up.

If carbon is present, follow the Throttle Body Cleaning Procedure in SI to clean the throttle body.

After ensuring that the throttle body bore and plate are clean, perform an "idle learn reset/reset idle learn" with the Tech 2 and re-evaluate the concern.

Notice: Depending on the vehicle you are working on, the "idle learn reset/reset idle learn" is normally found on the Tech 2 ECM menu for Module Set Up or Special Functions/TAC System.

Please follow this diagnostic or repair process thoroughly and complete each step. If the condition exhibited is resolved without completing every step, the remaining steps do not need to be performed.

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