High idle

Tiny
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  • 1994 CHRYSLER LHS
  • 154,340 MILES
Car idled at 1800 replaced iac valve was told it was the MAFsensor but found car not equipped with MAF so what replaced it
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Monday, April 29th, 2013 AT 10:48 AM

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Tiny
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Chrysler never used a mass air flow sensor. They are the only manufacturer that has been able to make an engine run right without one. They don't cause high idle anyway. They use the MAP sensor to measure manifold vacuum to calculate engine load and fuel metering. Check for a vacuum leak.
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Monday, April 29th, 2013 AT 11:22 AM
Tiny
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What is the best way to check for vacuum leaks was told starting fluid and propane around the manifold
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Monday, April 29th, 2013 AT 11:40 AM
Tiny
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Could it b the map sensor it self if I disconnect it it idles way down like it wants to die
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Monday, April 29th, 2013 AT 11:43 AM
Tiny
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The MAP sensor has the biggest say in how much fuel goes into the engine. When you disconnect the hose it will see no vacuum which correlates with wide-open-throttle and the need for a lot of fuel. If you're disconnecting the rubber hose, (you didn't say which engine you have), the engine is probably flooding and slowing down. You would see black smoke at the tail pipe. If you unplugged the electrical connector the computer will detect that, set a diagnostic fault code, and turn on the Check Engine light. It will go into backup strategy to calculate the approximate fuel needs but it won't be right.

I prefer looking for vacuum leaks with a squirt bottle filled with water, while the engine is still cold. You'll see it get sucked in and hear the engine slow down when you spray the leak. You can also pinch off rubber hoses. If one affects engine speed, follow it to where it branches off and do that to each one to narrow it down.

Starting fluid takes a while to vaporize so it may not get sucked into a leak. Propane will, and it will cause a further increase in engine speed. Water works well for intake manifold gasket leaks on top. Propane works better for leaking hoses.

You should check for diagnostic fault codes too. If there's one for the automatic idle speed motor there is likely a cut wire going to it or a corroded terminal in the connector. Codes for that circuit usually will not turn on the Check Engine light because the problem won't have an adverse affect on emissions. The additional clue is the motor would not move so the idle speed will always be the same.
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Monday, April 29th, 2013 AT 1:22 PM
Tiny
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Sorry bout that its a 3.5 L V6
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Monday, April 29th, 2013 AT 1:43 PM
Tiny
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Okay, so I know you didn't unplug the vacuum hose. That one screws into the intake manifold and doesn't use a hose.
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Monday, April 29th, 2013 AT 1:53 PM

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