Fuel pum get no power, but is ok.

Tiny
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1995 Ford Taurus GL, 3.0
Varified the FP is working by applying 12 V at pin 5 of the CCRM. The car starts right a way. Switching egnition from off to run does not power the FP. I think the CCRM is bad, but what tells the CCRM to power FP? Can the PCM be bad? This happens intermitently, only now it appears to be for good :(

How do I test the CCRM to conclusavely exclude any thing else?
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Saturday, July 8th, 2006 AT 4:41 PM

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Tiny
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The fuel system has a fuel pump relay (part of constant control relay module (CCRM)) controlled by the powertrain control module (PCM), which provides power to the fuel pump under various operating conditions.

When the ignition switch is in the OFF position:
The powertrain control module (PCM) and fuel pump relays are not energized.
When the ignition switch is first turned to the RUN position:
The powertrain control module (PCM) power relay is energized.
Power is provided to both the fuel pump relay and to a timing device in the powertrain control module.
The fuel pump is supplied power by the fuel pump relay.
If the ignition switch is not turned to the START position:
The timing device in the powertrain control module will open the ground Circuit 57 (BK) (after approximately one second). Opening the ground circuit de-energizes the fuel pump relay, which in turn de-energizes the fuel pump. This circuitry provides for pre-pressurization of the fuel system.
When the ignition switch is turned to the START position:
The powertrain control module operates the fuel pump relay to provide fuel for starting the engine while cranking.
After the engine starts and the ignition switch is returned to the RUN position:
Power to the fuel pump is again supplied through the fuel pump relay.
The powertrain control module senses engine speed and shuts off the fuel pump by opening the ground circuit to the fuel pump relay when the engine stops or is below 120 rpm.
The fuel pump module is mounted in the module retainer. The fuel initially enters the module through a flapper valve, located at the bottom of the module, and primes the fuel pump. A portion of the high pressure flow from the pump is diverted to operate a venturi jet pump. The jet pump draws fuel from the tank into the module. This design permits fuel pump operation during vehicle maneuvers and driving on steep hills with low-tank full levels.

This assembly includes a check valve which is inside the manifold outlet of the fuel pump module. The function of this valve is to maintain pressure in the system after the vehicle is shut down.

The pressure retention helps prevent hot starting concerns.

The fuel pump for the:
3.0L MFI. 3.8L MFI and 3.2L SHO is capable of supplying 60L (15.8 gal) of fuel per hour at 269 kPa (39 psi).
3.0L SHO engines are capable of supplying 110L (29 gallons) of fuel per hour at 269 kPa (39 psi).
3.0L FF vehicle is capable of supplying 145L (38 gal) of fuel per hour at 269 kPa (39 psi).
The fuel pump has an internal pressure relief valve to provide overpressure protection in the event the fuel flow becomes restricted (damaged lines, clogged filter, etc.). Overpressure is restricted to 850 kPa (123 psi) and reduced fuel flow will result. The system pressure is controlled by a fuel pressure regulator mounted on the engine.
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Saturday, July 8th, 2006 AT 7:35 PM
Tiny
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Thank you for the very good operation outline. So my ultimate question is, if the pump does not get power during START, is the CCRM or PCM at fault? How can tell? Is there a functional test I can run on teh CCRM?
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Sunday, July 9th, 2006 AT 8:25 AM
Tiny
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I assume since you havent mentioned any, there are no DTC codes logged?
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Sunday, July 9th, 2006 AT 2:28 PM
Tiny
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Send me a PM with your email address and I will send you some diagrams that may help you trouble shoot. Just too many variables to write it out step by step.
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Sunday, July 9th, 2006 AT 2:57 PM
Tiny
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I ended up placing after market CCRM at $100 and it works just as you decribed. About one second in run mode pump runs and stops. Then in start mode, it starts as it should and runs, as it should.

I was just hestant in spending the $$$ on non refundable parts, but you cleared my hesitation with the Ground to CCRM from PCM. I placed my ground and did not get the pump work. I placed 12 V on the CCRM to Pump pin, and the pump workd. There were 12 V on the CCRM to pump relay and on the RUN/START pin.

So all is well.

Thank you again.
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Wednesday, July 12th, 2006 AT 4:05 PM

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