This is a long story, but aren't they all. 2002 Ford Taurus w/approximately 110,000 miles on it (6 cylinder). Check engine light came on. Took car to retailer who said fuel injector (#4) needed to be replaced. Had work done. Few days or couple weeks later, engine light on again. Took back to retailer who now says on board computer shorted out fuel injector and both need to be replaced. Had work done. Few days or couple weeks later check engine light comes back on. Take back to same retailer. This time they say it is a compression issue. They put some fluid in it to see if that resolves compression issue. It doesn't. Take back to retailer. At one point retailer says that gas is being dumped out into cyclinder. Since we are trying to get it to pass emissions test they say they can increase RPM temporarily. They do that, and car passes emissions. Take car back and they lower RPM. Have car back for about a month, and driving down highway car begins to sputter and feel like it is going to die. This is big time sputter. Also hear horrible noise. Then it surges and picks up speed, then sputters heavily again.
Previously, car would feel like it was sputtering a little bit when idling (sitting at stop sign/stop light) (even before check engine light came on in the first place). But nothing like this. Had car towed to mechanic who recommended (after looking at car for about an hour) that I take it back to retailer. Mechanic thought issue was related to what retailer had done, because lots of gas is being dumped out into cylinder.
Have car towed to retailer. Retailer is now telling me that something broke in the engine (even though they didn't take engine apart). Says engine needs to be rebuilt.
I'm wondering how much it will cost to have a 2002 Ford Taurus engine rebuilt? Plus, is it possible retailer " broke" something?
I would ask them why they say something broken in engine? Is engine compression ok?What cylinder is low compression? Is making any noise?Was it smoking bad, and what was the color of the smoke if it was?It all Sounds kinda funny.
February, 10, 2007 AT 4:31 PM
The retailer said they hear something moving around in the engine. Something to the effect of you can hear something rattling around. There was no smoke. When it started choking, and sounding horrible I tried to pull over immediately. I didn't want to drive it with the way it was acting or sounding. But there was no smoke. I asked the retailer if it could be related to the fuel injector or on board computer they replaced. They said it had good compression (which is interesting, because previously they told me it had compression problems and that is why the check engine light kept coming on even after all of their repairs).
I think I will need to have it towed to an engine place, because the retailer apparently doesn't think they can fix it or they just don't want to deal with it anymore.
I'm just curious what it might run me if I do have to have the engine rebuilt, or have a remanufactured or low mileage engine put into it?
February, 10, 2007 AT 4:53 PM
I Would take to a different place. Can you hear any noise from the engine, like knocking or tapping.
Dosn't sound like you need another engine. You have good comppressoin. You Just need a good local machanic with good references. Ask friends or coworkers, and family members if they know someone.
February, 10, 2007 AT 6:42 PM
I agree with Ray, I would find a local garage that is up to date with technology, as many are not. I am speculating that perhaps too much gas made its way into the crankcase. When the fuel was being dumped and not burned in the cylinders, it could cause a temporary loss of compression. The thin oil may have caused a lower end engine problems such as spun bearings.
However I believe that you have an existing problem in the engine control management area that will alos need to be straightened out. It wouldn't surprize me if the reman motor was $4000 or so. Used ones should be available... not sure of the market value of those. Used motors come with question marks.
February, 10, 2007 AT 6:47 PM
February, 25, 2007 AT 11:49 AM
Update on 2002 Ford Taurus with approximately 110,000-112,000 miles on it. Check engine light came on, and was told that fuel injector #4 needed to be replaced. Had it replaced. Light back on. Now told onboard computer shorted out fuel injector, and that onboard computer and fuel injector would need to be replaced again. Had both items taken care of. Other misc. However, had car back about a month and check engine light comes on again, and car essentially breaks down. Told engine needed to be rebuilt or replaced. Had car towed to engine place. They concur concerning engine. Had low mileage engine put into car.
Have had car back about 1 1/2 days. Check engine started flashing again, and for now is on solid.
Would appreciate any input you can provide.
Thanks in advance
February, 25, 2007 AT 11:57 AM
There is damage being done to the converter when the CEL flashes. Need to access the codes to start trouble shooting. Take it back to the engine people immediatly, don't drive like that.