1997 Ford Taurus poor mileage

Tiny
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  • 1997 FORD TAURUS
  • 6 CYL
  • FWD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 66,000 MILES
I have read the experts on Ford performance. I laugh at your diagnosis. How sad you guys are. Do you even know what a PFE is and what it does? I could fill the page with stupid remarks of your misleading answers. How sad for the people who listen to you guys.
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Saturday, June 5th, 2010 AT 12:03 AM

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Tiny
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Yes I am fully aware of what a PFE is and what it does. And what is your point about it.

What did we diagnose wrong that the ford performance techs did right?
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Saturday, June 5th, 2010 AT 5:55 PM
Tiny
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A concerned vehicle owner with a performance problem asks a tech about an EGR code and that a new EGR valve replacement did not solve the problem. The tech tells the concerned vehicle owner to replace the O2 sensor to solve the problem. 9 out 0f 10 times a PFE sensor will take care of the EGR code if the EGR valve is good, this is of course the exhaust system is a good tight system with no leaks. If the O2 sensor solved the customers problem, the tech got really lucky in his guess.

I read another problem of a customers concern. The Taurus in question had an engine stall when coming to a stop. The tech's answer was a maladjusted TPS or a fuel pump problem. In most stalling cases of Ford and Chrysler, it is usually a coking problem in the IAC passage and on the pintle. A good cleaning of the throttle body and resetting of the minimum idle speed will usually cure the problem. Ford of course has to go through a learned idle strategy after resetting the computer.

Should I continue on many other misleading answers to customers problems?
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Saturday, June 5th, 2010 AT 6:23 PM
Tiny
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With the first point I agree with you on that point of the PFE. With the next point that is a good possibility. But you cannot overlook the point of the fuel pump. Wheres I would have first went after the IAC motor fuel pump wouldve been a suggestion. How would you have suggested cleaning the throttle body?
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Sunday, June 6th, 2010 AT 1:16 PM
Tiny
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I can't believe you are asking me about cleaning procedures on a FI system. Ford and Chrysler are a little different systems but Ford requires a little more than others. Ford came out with a kit you can install which is a waste of money if one knows what they are doing. I was also a Tech at a Ford dealership. I was always the one who got the problem child and had to diagnose it.
If you know about the Snap On Scanner, I was one of the Techs that sent in fixes for unsolvable problems. I went to work for Snap On Tech Systems and was noted as the most knowledgeable Tech that worked for Snap On. I received numerous awards while working for Snap On and got paid well from many Dealerships in the LA and Orange County areas.

I don't just hand out my knowledge to others who will profit from it with out getting paid. My knowledge can make others lots of money.
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Sunday, June 6th, 2010 AT 3:53 PM
Tiny
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I was just waiting for you to say brake clean or something. Then I could tell you that you are wrong because ford labels right on their throttlebodies and repair information to NOT clean it. I wasnt asking for any kind of answers from you sir. Sorry!
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Sunday, June 6th, 2010 AT 5:26 PM
Tiny
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I'm not about to argue with you since you know it all. However you need to get a hold of the site administrators and let them know they are wrong in posting this article about cleaning the throttle body. It is sad they don't know as much as you.

Look at this link of the site you support. " http://www.2carpros.com/how_to/how_to_tune_up.htm "

I've corrected many problems by cleaning things that were not supposed to be touched. I've saved many people lots of money in my years in business. I also guaranteed much of my work up to a year. Timing belts were guaranteed up to 50,000 miles regardless of mileage.

I sold my business to my top tech. Please tell me more of how I did wrong in my business and my repairs. I sold my business in 1999 and it is still the biggest and most popular shop around.

By the way, I have never seen a faulty fuel pump set a PFE code nor a EGR code. I have seen a lean code set but soon as you replace a clogged fuel filter the vehicle only runs for a few miles and then it gets towed back in for the fuel pump. I always let the customer know, he most likely will be paying for a tow bill soon if he doesn't elect to replace the fuel pump at the same time.
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Sunday, June 6th, 2010 AT 5:57 PM

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