Code 17105 output speed sensor

Tiny
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  • 2008 VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE
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  • AUTOMATIC
  • 129,000 MILES
Can anyone tell me if this is a sensor that becomes faulty often? How to replace it? What symptoms? A slipping happened around fourth gear once while driving and then the gear caught up and drove fine after. No check engine or any other light. Is there a way to check transmission fluid level?
Monday, February 24th, 2020 AT 10:17 AM

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Tiny
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Found a repair receipt in the car that says transmission pan gasket was replaced as well as fluid, so hopefully this is a sensor issue.
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Monday, February 24th, 2020 AT 10:44 AM
Tiny
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Hi,

Before doing anything, make sure the trans fluid is full. If this has happened since the service, I have a feeling you will find the fluid is between 2 and 3 quarts low. If it is, make sure you use the correct fluid.

If this is the 6 speed automatic, here are the directions for checking fluid level. The attached pics correlate with these directions.
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2008 Volkswagen New Beetle (1C1) L5-2.5L (BPR)
ATF Level, Checking
Vehicle Maintenance Fluids Fluid - A/T Service and Repair Procedures 09G, 6 Speed A/T ATF Level, Checking
ATF LEVEL, CHECKING
ATF Level, Checking, 09G, 6 Speed A/T

Special tools, testers and auxiliary items required
Torque wrench V.A.G. 1331
Used oil collection and extraction unit V.A.G. 1782
Vehicle diagnosis, testing and information system VAS 5051
Drip tray for workshop hoist VAS 6208
Adapter for filling oil VAS 6262
Adapter VAS 6262/2

pic 1

- Switch off engine.
The ATF temperature should not be more than approx. 30°C at start of test.
Transmission not in emergency running mode; ATF temperature not above approx. 30°C
Vehicle must be standing level
Selector lever in "P".
- Connect "tester" and continue switching until it is ready for operation.
- Press "right" Guided Functions.
- Then select vehicle, the transmission and Check ATF Level.
- Press arrow right.
- Start engine.
- Raise vehicle.
- Place drip tray under transmission.
- Press arrow right.

If a test temperature between 35°C and 45°C is displayed:

pic 2

- Remove ATF inspection plug from oil pan.

Pic 3

The ATF present in the overflow tube runs out.

If ATF drips out of drilling:

ATF does not need topping off.

- Install new seal to plug and tighten to 15 Nm. This completes the ATF check.

If no ATF drips out of inspection hole:

- Top off ATF.

Here are the directions for the 09G trans.

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2008 Volkswagen New Beetle (1C1) L5-2.5L (BPR)
ATF, Filling
Vehicle Maintenance Fluids Fluid - A/T Service and Repair Procedures 09G Transmission ATF, Filling
ATF, FILLING
ATF, Filling

Special tools, testers and auxiliary items required

Torque wrench (V.A.G 1331)

Used oil collection and extraction unit (V.A.G 1782 )

Vehicle diagnosis, testing and information system ( VAS 5051)

Drip tray for workshop hoist (VAS 6208)

Adapter for filling oil (VAS 6262)

Adapter (VAS 6262/2)

- With engine "running", install adapter for filling oil (VAS 6262/2) hand-tight.

Pic 4

- Add 1 l of ATF.

- Pull off adapter for oil filling (VAS 6262) at quick-release connection and check:

If ATF now flows out of hole in adapter:

ATF does not need topping off.

- Drain ATF until it drips.

- Install new seal to plug and tighten to 15 Nm. This completes ATF check.

If no ATF drips out:

- Add another liter => [ ATF, Filling ] See: Fluid - A/T > Procedures > ATF, Filling.

CAUTION!
An ATF level which is too low or too high will impair the function of the transmission. But if the transmission was 2 liters low, it must be carefully inspected. There is probably a "major" leak.

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As far as the output speed sensor, you need to remove the valve body to access it. Here are the directions.

2008 Volkswagen New Beetle (1C1) L5-2.5L (BPR)
Transmission Output Speed Sensor
Vehicle Powertrain Management Transmission Control Systems Sensors and Switches - Transmission and Drivetrain Sensors and Switches - A/T Transmission Speed Sensor Service and Repair Removal and Replacement 09G Transmission Transmission Output Speed Sensor
TRANSMISSION OUTPUT SPEED SENSOR
Transmission Output Speed Sensor

Removing

- Remove valve body => [ Valve Body ] See: Valve Body, A/T > Removal and Replacement > Valve Body.

- Remove bolt - 2 - of Transmission Output Speed (RPM) Sensor (G195).

Pic 6

- Remove sensor from housing.

Installing

Installation is in reverse order of removal. Note the following:

- Press sensor into transmission up to stop.

- Tighten bolt - 2 - of Transmission Output Speed (RPM) Sensor (G195) => [ (Item 17) Bolt, 7 Nm ] See: Valve Body, A/T > Removal and Replacement > Valve Body Assembly Overview.

- Install valve body => [ Valve Body ] See: Valve Body, A/T > Removal and Replacement > Valve Body.

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If you need more info for removing the valve body, let me know.

Take care and let me know what you find.

Joe
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